Anyone watching coppers?

Originally Posted by husky03

you mad?-you should see the paperwork i need to fill in if i use my magic stick

Haha! And Husky is not joking!

Ach, I think the problem with these programs is that you see what the producer and editors want you to see. Not saying there are not bad coppers out there or bad protesters, just saying that I always take stuff like that on telly with a pinch of salt.

[embee]

I've watched all (I think) of the series so far.

I think it has confirmed exactly what I thought was the case.

There are some people who are total ar$eholes who are simply out to cause hassle and grief to those they interact with and will do what they think they can get away with and get off on showing-off in front of their mates, whereas most people are quite reasonable and do their best to get along with others despite difficult circumstances.

I'm not saying whether I think the above applies to the Police or to the public, or both. You decide.

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by embee

I've watched all (I think) of the series so far.

I think it has confirmed exactly what I thought was the case.

There are some people who are total ar$eholes who are simply out to cause hassle and grief to those they interact with and will do what they think they can get away with and get off on showing-off in front of their mates, whereas most people are quite reasonable and do their best to get along with others despite difficult circumstances.

I'm not saying whether I think the above applies to the Police or to the public, or both. You decide.

Very well put and so true.

just watching the bolton on now, my god policing is different over here
ive had the privilage of doing crowd/riot control and feck me the english are very leniant, try that carp in N.I and its a different ball game, the uaf come across as a bunch of muppets, and i disagree with the edl's pricibles yet still think the uaf are wingnuts
and at the end it was obviously a 200 strong bunch of trouble makers came in for the uaf (i wouldnt have let them near it) and then the more radical side of the edl tried a mini kick off (including some mongs from ni i may add)
all in all i think the police got it mainly right and as ive said before were very leaniant, no baton rounds used or crowd dispercal cs from old faithful, a very minimal incident tbh

overall the british police force is extremely patient with a whole manor of people who are a waste of space to all accounts. anyone being mouthy to them while theyre doing their job should indeed be taken up on it. a very few members of the police force would get a power trip though, though sometimes it seems like the system is broken.

i heard a story about a bloke who heard a large theives breaking into his garage and house. he called the police who said their closest car was over an hour away and that they would come when they could.. a few minutes later he called back and told them not to worry coming over hed gone out and shot them all.. within 4 minutes 5 police cars and a van were outside his door.. when asked.. i thought you said you shot them he replied. i thought your closest cars were an hour away.

you could say they were pulled off of other more important jobs but to everyday you and me a gang of theives and nasty people breaking into your house where your family is, is pretty damned important.

overall, "in my opinion" coppers are having to work through an extremely bureaucracised (i hope i spelt that right) system, its there to keep them in line but strangles their effectiveness. anytime i see a mouthy git causing nothing but trouble get a baton in the mush is tax payers cash well spent

Originally Posted by lammypie

i heard a story about a bloke who heard a large theives breaking into his garage and house. he called the police who said their closest car was over an hour away and that they would come when they could.. a few minutes later he called back and told them not to worry coming over hed gone out and shot them all.. within 4 minutes 5 police cars and a van were outside his door.. when asked.. i thought you said you shot them he replied. i thought your closest cars were an hour away.

Excellent!

Originally Posted by lammypie

you could say they were pulled off of other more important jobs but to everyday you and me a gang of theives and nasty people breaking into your house where your family is, is pretty damned important.

Whilst on the whole I agree with what you are saying, what if they were dealing with a serious road traffic collision, or dealing with the family whilst in attendance at a sudden death, or en route to assist colleagues who were getting a kicking?

I agree that people breaking into your house is a very important thing and a serious crime and trust me, we look on it that way and we ALWAYS drop anything that's not a very serious matter to attend to calls like that but sometimes, we can't. I'll tell you, I have never seen cops move as quick as they do when they are told there is a potential housebreaking in progress!

it was only a story id heard. my personal experience with the local force is that theyl pretty much bend over backwards to get there when theres a break in. especially for our house which was a regular target due to the motorbikes inside the garage. the b*stards wernt disuaded by alarms, aluminum cover locks with titanium pins (cant grind the aluminium cant cut the titanium), theyd pulled the roof off once.

and big thanks to the very nice police officer that after the 13th time of attempted break in, for that year, who told us that if we "somehow" got hold of one, as far as he was concerned its self defence. moved since and the troubles stopped, but the new owners inherited a garage more difficult to break in than fort knox

[yorkie_chris]

You can grind aluminium.
It is very soft, you can cold chisel and crop it easily too.

You want case-hardened steel and lots of it.

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Whilst on the whole I agree with what you are saying, what if they were dealing with a serious road traffic collision, or dealing with the family whilst in attendance at a sudden death, or en route to assist colleagues who were getting a kicking?

Then he should have been told that there was a major incident in his area and therefore they were very busy, not lied to and told the nearest car was an hour away.