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Old 14-03-11, 11:26 AM   #31
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How many on here boycott Israeli goods because of the way the Israelis treat Palestinians?

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Old 14-03-11, 11:28 AM   #32
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How many on here boycott Israeli goods because of the way the Israelis treat Palestinians?

*Puts hand up*
<Puts hand up too>

I used to boycott French goods when their striking truck drivers were stopping British lorries and setting fire to British food products. Took me years to start buying things like Michelin tyres
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Old 14-03-11, 11:35 AM   #33
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Regardless of who has done what to whom and when, it never does any good for either side to hold onto grudges and negativity.

IMHO the only exception is when something is still ongoing, and therefore a boycott has the ability to influence events (e.g. the Palestine/Israel conflict)
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Old 14-03-11, 11:38 AM   #34
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I used to boycott French goods when their striking truck drivers were stopping British lorries and setting fire to British food products. Took me years to start buying things like Michelin tyres
Nah we just boycott the French stuff becuase its French!
If i drink their wine its less for them to drink
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Old 14-03-11, 11:39 AM   #35
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So how about our Government supporting flights of Spitfires up the Thames?

Or the guys that privately fund the preservation of various other warplanes?
Hardly the same is it dude ?
For a start, they started the war !!

On the whole we didn't mistreat our pow's !!

We won !!

A picture of a zero fighter on their wall isn't exactly showing remorse for their part is it ?

Finally, if we should all forget how come black people constantly remind us of slavery ? Shouldnt they just forget and move on ?

I just hope none of you have to endure what pow's had to back then, you might just feel different the next time a discussion on this is brought up.

Btw, I do think it's terrible what has happened over in japan, I do hope the death count doesn't keep rising as well.
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Old 14-03-11, 11:45 AM   #36
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So what about POW's we had - they weren't kept in 5* hotels.

A zero fighter was their plane of war so why should they display it the same as we do with ours. We may have won the war but I bet (don't know for certain) that Japan won a few battles.

Most people are not saying forget - but lets have rememberance it in context.
I hope more over that nobody has to endure what everyone endured back then - not just those who decided that they wanted to fight for their country.
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Old 14-03-11, 11:52 AM   #37
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So what about POW's we had - they weren't kept in 5* hotels.

A zero fighter was their plane of war so why should they display it the same as we do with ours.
Compared to what our guys had to endure, I think we gave them 5* treatment

I should have explained, the paintings weren't portraits they were mainly "action shots" dive bombing ships and troops. Makes a difference to me at least.
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Old 14-03-11, 12:10 PM   #38
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Hardly the same is it dude ?
For a start, they started the war !!
What does that matter?...if we are so concerned with "moralistic nuances" , then sure, it matters not who started some war or who took up an apparent challenge.

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On the whole we didn't mistreat our pow's !!
"On the whole"? ...so you couldn't categorically say, they weren't mistreated then?

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We won !!
And that changes and makes all the difference? Are those deemed to be heroes supposedly only those from a victorious side?

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A picture of a zero fighter on their wall isn't exactly showing remorse for their part is it ?
Because like it or not, to some people...perhaps even those that lost friends and family... those fighters were indeed heroes. That is not to say, they believed in all that took place. The concept of remorse is a pretty funny one, when we talk of war. All sides have only one thing in mind and I'd hazard a guess, it's not to be the vanquished.

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Finally, if we should all forget how come black people constantly remind us of slavery ? Shouldnt they just forget and move on ?
Totally agree...once genuine, real and unequivocal remorse has been shown

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I just hope none of you have to endure what pow's had to back then, you might just feel different the next time a discussion on this is brought up.
Humans are creatures of emotions but that is not to say, emotion driven responses/thoughts are necessarily make for a better way of living our lives. We would always have to make allowances for that but if we believe we do indeed become elightened as time goes on, then it's healthy to challenge that concept.

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Btw, I do think it's terrible what has happened over in japan, I do hope the death count doesn't keep rising as well.
Amen!! to that
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Old 14-03-11, 12:17 PM   #39
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How many on here boycott Israeli goods because of the way the Israelis treat Palestinians?

*Puts hand up*
I don't. I buy lots of stuff made in Israel, being Jewish will do that I suppose.
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Perhaps we should spend more time and effort kick starting our economy...by buying only British...do more good, won't it
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