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Old 06-04-11, 10:05 PM   #31
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Yes pal, im doing the half day friday, could you have a look over TRIGGER II to make sure she FULLY complies with the full rules and regulations, I wouldnt sleep it she wasnt
See you Friday mate.......
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Old 06-04-11, 10:50 PM   #32
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If you consider that rule very clear and unabiguous then i really think you need to sit and consider it. If you only need to change the wording to make it clear for riders to understand, isn't it worth the time to do ?

The stance of 'it's my ball and i can do what i like with it' doesn't help anyone Mike.
This has nothing whatsoever to do with "it's my ball and i can do what i like with it". The rules has remained unchanged since 2003 because the FIM standard usage of the word 'homologated' is very clear and is applied consistently across plenty of rule books across the world, including this one.

You are arguing that my interpretation is wrong and that yours is correct. I am simply disagreeing with you and pointing out how the rule is actually interpreted.

There is no debate here, we have plenty of areas where anyone who wishes to clarify the interpretation of a rule before making changes to their bike, etc. can do so.

MiniTwins is not run by a committee. In order to ensure that it remains consistent and effective somebody has to make a call on things. If there is genuinely a case for confusion we can consider changing the wording of a rule but you are the first person to decide to interpret it outside of the scope that it covers in nearly eight years of racing.
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Old 06-04-11, 10:55 PM   #33
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Default Re: up for debate... What is the ultimate fork Sv conversion.

I can see where he is coming from about the wording being slightly amibigous. It isn't absolutely crystal that it's saying "the caps must be stock", you could argue that it is saying "the level of adjustment offered by the caps must be stock".

But if that's how they're interpreted then that's that. Doesn't bother me as it's just as involved to make a fancy cap (if not more) as it is to make the stock one work with cartridge or (illegally) machine a GSXR one to fit.
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Old 06-04-11, 11:16 PM   #34
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Sadly the caps have to be the stock homologated items as sold with the bike new, even if they are say an Ohlins cap that only allows preload adjustment they arent allowed. This is a Q I posed to Mike who wrote the rules when we first started doing the forks. The rules ambigous so I had it clarified.
Maybe the 2nd

I'm not arguing that your interpretation is wrong and that mine is correct. I'm stating that me, and atleast one other person has found the rule ambiguous.

The rules are there for all riders to read and set out to build a bike within them. If as in this case, people can say the rule is ambiguous, isn't it better to address it to save this kind of situation?
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Old 07-04-11, 10:01 AM   #35
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Old 07-04-11, 10:04 AM   #36
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Maybe the 2nd

I'm not arguing that your interpretation is wrong and that mine is correct. I'm stating that me, and atleast one other person has found the rule ambiguous.

The rules are there for all riders to read and set out to build a bike within them. If as in this case, people can say the rule is ambiguous, isn't it better to address it to save this kind of situation?

Make that two people please!!!
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Old 07-04-11, 12:03 PM   #37
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Maybe the 2nd

atleast one other person has found the rule ambiguous.
I asked about it back in 2004 to be sure id read it correctly and to ensure we were missing anything when it came to modifying the forks thats all.
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Old 07-04-11, 01:39 PM   #38
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My point was that you had also found the rule ambiguous Sarah.
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Old 07-04-11, 01:45 PM   #39
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My point was that you had also found the rule ambiguous Sarah.
Not ambiguous I worded it wrongly.

I understood the meaning of the rule but wanted to clarify it with Mike so I did along with a few other things.

If I didnt understand it I would have said so.

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Old 07-04-11, 02:19 PM   #40
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Don't know if you noticed but in post 34 your quote is there before you edited your original.
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