Self defence - the best legal methods?

Originally Posted by Messie

The very best form of self defense has to be avoid trouble in the first place

Not always as easy as that when they decide to choose to ambush/take umbridge/pick on you because you're just in the wrong place at the wrong time

Hairspray/deodorant, can they do ya for reaching for the "first" thing you happened upon in your bag? Obviously pepper spray is bought with intent to use against someone.

[Messie]

Ah yes, the small can of hairspray. I'd forgotten about that; it was always the advice given when I was young. But that was too long ago!

Never had to use it mind

Originally Posted by Messie

Ah yes, the small can of hairspray. I'd forgotten about that; it was always the advice given when I was young. But that was too long ago!

Never had to use it mind

Aye, always was something my mum used to tell me to carry..well she still does

[littleoldman2]

Liked the brolly idea, you could do a lot of damage with the right brolly and thugs probably know it. Might come in handy when it rains. The right dog works well.

Or chop an arm off and use a prosthetic...bit extreme mind...

[yorkie_chris]

You can't carry anything worth having.

Any knife of any use at all as a weapon will be too clumsy to get to because you won't be *rsed to practice using it and will be markedly obviously intended to be a weapon to any plod. And showing someone one won't help, because they know you won't use it. And if you use it successfully then you're going down. Justified self defence or not.

Big maglite is an excellent club and police-proof, great for the car but you can't carry one. And probably still worth an attempt by the Criminal Protection Service c***s to convict you if you were carrying one during the day

Knuckleduster, pretty good, but by the time it comes to it, it won't matter. Same argument as for pointy stuff. Also negates your most effective first shot.

Sprays, hairspray won't be any use. Even proper pepper or CS isn't that great and you can't use it properly. And it's a sect 5 firearm. Some dye marker sprays available legally are also IMO useless. But you can take them apart and fill with pepperspray instead to pass a cursory police inspection.


So in a situation like the riots, unless you're a criminal you're f***ed, since our series of delightful governments have removed firearms from the law abiding. And as years of colonialism showed, the only way to deal with large groups of savages is with a sufficient volume of firepower.
Best weapon is probably a car, go on a defensive driving course and go nuts

As for normal life, stay out of sh*thole areas like the south, or bradford, keep your wits about you, remain alert to your surroundings. Avoid situations, if one develops then your options are basically talk your way out of it, front your way out of it or drop them.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Sprays, hairspray won't be any use. Even proper pepper or CS isn't that great and you can't use it properly. And it's a sect 5 firearm. Some dye marker sprays available legally are also IMO useless. But you can take them apart and fill with pepperspray instead to pass a cursory police inspection.

Surely as a deterrent they are better than nothing? Even if it confuddles the git and gives you an all important 10 seconds to escape/assert a well aimed kick or similar?

[yorkie_chris]

If you've got the presence of mind to keep it within a second of immediate use (pointing the right way, no fumbling...) then you're obviously switched on enough to not get in the situation in the first place. Effective range is going to be what, 6"? Less if it's windy. You're probably going to have to move TOWARD the threat to do that, which is mental. You'd be better off learning how to dial 999 in your pocket/bag and shouting "get the **** away from me" and sprinting away.

Although I will concede it may confuse them.

Or you reaching into your handbag...making out its something much worse then BAM a bit of spray. It could work...

[Red Herring]

Train your brain before working on your fists. Trouble is rarely unannounced and the sooner you spot it coming the longer you have to avoid it. Bit like riding a motorcycle really. I appreciate that there are always going to be situations where you are really at risk but they are far rarer than most make out. If you start carrying something then you are part of the problem, and you won't win.