Invisible cyclists

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Originally Posted by Dipper

Road tax was abolished about 1939, roads currently are paid for out of general taxation. If cyclists were to pay VED it would probably be at the rate for 125gm CO2 or less cars which currently is £0. Cyclists have just as much right to their journey as any other road user.

Registering cycles could only be an expensive overkill of a piece of legislation. I carry £10,000,000 3rd party insurance for cycling which costs about £20 a year this clearly illustrates the true risk cyclists pose on the roads.

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Originally Posted by Dipper

Registering cycles could only be an expensive overkill of a piece of legislation. I carry £10,000,000 3rd party insurance for cycling which costs about £20 a year this clearly illustrates the true risk cyclists pose on the roads.

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We need to look at pro cycling countries like Holland, more bike useage per head than any other EU country, more spent on cyclists per head.

They don't have a registration policy and doing that here would only reduce the number of cyclists, and lead to more & more cars on the roads, when government is trying to encourage us to reduce our car usage.

Since when have they done away with the little reg no on the dutch bikes then? and what percentage of cyclists have 3rd party insurance?------very very few I think.

Road tax or VED however you wish to describe it was the thing I said didn't matter,it was some sort of identification for the cycle and insurance I implied should be a requirement.

Until the general riding and awareness improves you will not change my opinion and I can't see that happening without some sort of legislation

None of my dutch bikes had reg numbers, nor did any of my dutch colleagues.

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Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Since when have they done away with the little reg no on the dutch bikes then? and what percentage of cyclists have 3rd party insurance?------very very few I think.

All you can do is judge as you find on the roads which I'm sure you do Dicky, however there are many drivers who don't and are downright dangerous around the most vulerable of road users. It is no persons right to make progress above the safety of another road user.

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Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Since when have they done away with the little reg no on the dutch bikes then?

All the ones I've ridden in Holland & I've seen haven't had any registration

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

what percentage of cyclists have 3rd party insurance?------very very few I think.

Until its compulsory why should they? Where the evidence that cyclists cause enough accidents to warrant them having insurance. Yet another tax to discourage cyclists off the roads.

In 25 years of cycling, I've never hit anyone, pedestrian or vehicle, I have it because on nearly every ride I have cars getting too close or driving at manic speeds down single roads. I want legal assistance for when I get knocked off by some errant car driver

LPH - my rear light shoots some light out to the sides also for that very reason.

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Originally Posted by Dipper

Likleyhood is that a bad cyclist will only hurt themselves or cause a small amount of damage, a very different situation to what a bad driver can do.

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Grab a hand full of front Brake when a Ninja Cycle darts accross the zebra crossing and you might end up in a big heap?

Whilst driving a 44ton artic I have experience of loosing a lot of money over an incident involving a non insured cyclist.Locked up for 3 days and the perishable load ruined till it was established non fault. If the cyclist had insurance there would have been a possibility of recompense from the cyclist insurance I had no chance as he was dead

If as has been stated it is such a small risk premium why should cyclists be allowed to use the public highway uninsured-----please don't say that they don't cause accidents or loss to other road users because they do.

That is why I would like it to be compulsary ----and for electric invalid carriages as well.