Public Pay to be brought in line with Private

Originally Posted by maviczap

How come I'm wrong?

When I transferred to London, I got London weighting added to my basic salary, when I returned it was taken off.

If you're going to make a comment back it up with your own case.

This is my knowledge & experience, it yours is different, please enlighten us

It was late, I was grumpy, my apologies

I was simply trying to state that not all public sector workers who work in London get a London weighting allowance. I have worked in the public sector for 12 years now and have not received (nor am I entitled to) and sort of regional remuneration. I choose to live and work in this region so why should I be compensated for it?

In my experience public sector workers do not get paid more than equivalent private sector jobs so I don't know where the government get their figures from.....maybe they are better at generating spin than the last government in order to get the majority of the public behind their ideas.

Actually, if this latest scheme comes into effect then I would be looking at a 20% increase in pay so maybe they haven't thought this through completely.........

[maviczap]

No problem, perhaps I should have said SOME get London weighting.

In my neck of the woods we get more than most office workers, but we work shifts incl nights.

If it were basic salary, then it would be about the same.

I do think a lot of this is spin, creates bad feeling against the public sector by the private sector, which undermines the public sector pay arguements = Govenment wins

Originally Posted by maviczap

I do think a lot of this is spin, creates bad feeling against the public sector by the private sector, which undermines the public sector pay arguements = Govenment wins

The Government creating spin to help them facilitate a change in their favour?

Never been done, why would they do it now? Perhaps because they have to find a way of finding money from nowhere (by nowhere I mean joe publics pocket).

[maviczap]

Not sure I completely understand your reply.

Public servants have never been popular with any Tory govenment, slash and burn, cut wages, its always the same. Although as I said earlier they've never picked on the Police before.

I don't disagree with trying to resolve the financial crisis, but as Dizzy said picking on the poorer regions isn't going to boost their local economies. Moving jobs out of London to the cheaper regions would save money and boost jobs in those areas

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Fruity-ya-ya

The Government creating spin to help them facilitate a change in their favour?

Never been done, why would they do it now? Perhaps because they have to find a way of finding money from nowhere (by nowhere I mean joe publics pocket).

Stop stop - my sides are hurting!



I wonder if the names 'Alistair Campbell' and Peter 'Mandleson' mean anything to Toynbee's terrors? No? How conveniently the left reinvent the past, revisionism is alive and well and living at the Grauniad, the paper that spent the thirteen wasted years from '97 onwards supporting Bliar and McBroon in their quest to spin so hard the entire country could have done their washing in the nearest puddle, but now they think that spin is somehow wrong?

And in that they more effectively state why no-one should waste their money on trash like the Grauniad than I any words I could write could ever do. Truly pathetic.

[punyXpress]

Originally Posted by maviczap

Public servants have never been popular with any Tory govenment, slash and burn, cut wages, its always the same.

Just a shame they haven't been able to deal with all the ' non-jobs ' promoted by the previous lot!
There also appear to be concerted attempts by councils ( including Tory ) to maintain these at the expense of necessary services - perhaps to hold on to thei ' empires ' until the bitter end?

[Bri w]

I wonder if different MP's will have their wages cut because of where they live?

And they can't argue for equal pay because their expenses cover the London living...

the CONservatives wont be happy till the less well off are paying more tax and earning/paid less money and the top 5% who are paying to much tax and cant afford to heat there swimming pools will get there 50%tax reduced to 40% on earnings over 150k or so

[MisterTommyH]

I don't understand the problem with that Paul. People seem to forget that tax is a percentage, so If you are earning over £150k you are already paying well in excess of what the rest of us are paying. Also if you are in a job paying in excess of £150k you are probably in a job that is of significant benefit to the economy on other ways (and we're talking about people who are 'earning' here, not just rich due to their family).

If I got promoted to be MD of a company, surely I am contributing to the economy in other ways than just my income tax.... By the success of my company etc.

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by punyXpress

Just a shame they haven't been able to deal with all the ' non-jobs ' promoted by the previous lot!
There also appear to be concerted attempts by councils ( including Tory ) to maintain these at the expense of necessary services - perhaps to hold on to thei ' empires ' until the bitter end?

That's true, but in our mob, a lot of the essential jobs have to be done by me now.

There's still some non jobs in our lot, I get an email from someone, I think WHY do we need someone to do this??????????

There is still too much waste and crazy contracts that we've signed up for and the most overstaffed & complex method of paying bills that could be streamlined