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Old 17-12-13, 07:30 PM   #31
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No mate, by riding a little more to the right and letting them past without incident. The last thing you want is a car driver up your chuff when you get to the point in the slip road where somebody from the main carriageway might pull across in front of you, (which is exactly what the OP was worried about). You want to keep as many options open as you can, and not being able to brake or swerve to the left wouldn't leave you many.
Who has time to join the carriageway safely at speed and check for cars (that shouldnt be undertaking anyway) behind you?? A look back would have been done earlier when the punto wasnt there, judging on his speed.

The car is in the wrong, end of really. But as others have said, it may not be worth reporting based on experiences ive had with minor incidents and the police before.
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Old 17-12-13, 07:52 PM   #32
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Are you seriously suggesting a vehicle can come up behind you like that and you not be aware of it's presence?
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Old 17-12-13, 07:59 PM   #33
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Not that it should matter but the solid white lines had only just ended when that pr*ck came past, so the OP could only have legally moved into the right lane a split second earlier.

You see bad driving all the time but it's usually due to honest mistakes or doziness, whereas this looks like a blatant disregard for someone else's life.

Why not send it to Motorcycle News as a question for their legal column? Sure they'd love it and at least you'll get an expert opinion - there was a similar question a few weeks back and the resident solicitor said the police can and should take action.

You might even get a nice bit of biker community backlash that might lead to the driver being IDd or the car bashed in.
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Old 17-12-13, 08:39 PM   #34
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Yes, you idiot. How do you think alot of accidents happen?
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Old 17-12-13, 08:53 PM   #35
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You have watched the video haven't you?

Crashes happen because people either are not paying proper attention, or they make a misjudgement. I don't think anyone is suggesting either applies in this case.
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Old 17-12-13, 08:56 PM   #36
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Who has time to join the carriageway safely at speed and check for cars (that shouldnt be undertaking anyway) behind you?? A look back would have been done earlier when the punto wasnt there, judging on his speed.

The car is in the wrong, end of really. But as others have said, it may not be worth reporting based on experiences ive had with minor incidents and the police before.
1) AFAIK that is not undertaking. a Slip road is a one way road. On a one way road there is no such thing as an under or overtake (same as on a roundabout and in any one way system)
2) look at the video between 13-15 seconds and look in the mirrors. You can clearly see headlights that are very bright and close behind. Look in the mirror at 15 seconds you can see the car in the mirror-this is from the view point of the camera on the other side of his helmet.


As Trev has said, along with others. Better to be wrong and alive than 'dead' right.


Use it as a learning experience, and you'll know to watch out for it next time.
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Old 17-12-13, 09:06 PM   #37
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Ok well it may not technically be an undertake, but thats a single width piece of road joining the carriageway, so that space is designed for use of one vehicle. Yes in the vid you can see headlights, that doesnt mean that you expect someone to come up on you that fast and pass you. You may see that and anticipate them slowing down. Yes, you could move across in case they werent planning on slowing and yes that would potentially save yourself trouble, but at the end of the day you shouldnt have to in that situation.
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Old 17-12-13, 09:11 PM   #38
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Stu, there's a huge difference between what you "should" have to do, or not to do, from a highway code, legal point of view, and what you should do in the interest of good roadcraft and safety. I think everybody without exception has said the car driver was out of order, the discussion is around what the Op could have done to avoid being put at risk from it.
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Stu, I wasn't saying the car driver was right to do it. Only that from what I could see in the video, I would have seen the car, anticipated the move and given the car more room thus removing myself from the danger zone.


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Stu, there's a huge difference between what you "should" have to do, or not to do, from a highway code, legal point of view, and what you should do in the interest of good roadcraft and safety. I think everybody without exception has said the car driver was out of order, the discussion is around what the Op could have done to avoid being put at risk from it.
^ what he said. No digs, helpful advice.
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Old 17-12-13, 09:31 PM   #40
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Im not saying there isnt more he could have done more to avoid it, however im being realistic in saying in that situation, personally i would possibly be in his situation aswell whilst looking at traffic while i was trying to join. I appreiciate that being a capable rider is reacting to what could happen aswell as what will, but it would be nice if some of these cagers opened their eyes now and then
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