General Election Result

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by Heorot

I distinctly remember commuting up the A9 between Edinburgh & Perth. A lovely modern dual carriageway and virtually no traffic coming and going. I could cruise at 85 in perfect safety up that road (in a cage). It's absolutely ludicrous to impose a 40mph limit on roads like that.

surly you meant the M90 from Edinburgh to Perth. the A9 goes from Stirling to Perth.

you will also be pleased to know that Edinburgh will be a 20mph thought the whole city with 30 more speed cameras installed.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

The public net debt,that is the national debt as % of GDP,makes interesting reading over the last 100 years.It went up hugely during WW1 and remained high throughout the 1920s,only falling to "modern" levels just before WW2.Then it shot up again and slowly declned throughout the 50s60s and even the 70s.Modern levels have been lower generally than throughout the first half of the 20th century.

otherwise framed as debt only previously ballooned when we fought big ass wars and was traditionally very hard to bring down.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

But the last Labour government actually maintained slightly lower levels of national debt than the previous Tory one under both Major and Thatcher until the financial crash of 2007/8.Then it rose sharply as they bailed out the banks
Im no apologist for Blair and Brown,but some of the current governments propaganda about them has been less than honest,if very effective.

The labour government managed to bring down the debt legitimately whilst they were following the previous tory governments spending plans, they then managed a few more years of flogging assets like gold and then it all went to hell. The conservative statements on it may not have been as detailed as they should have been but the gist is accurate.

[Biker Biggles]

I cant be bothered doing a debate about it,but for anyone interested google national debt graphs and look at the long term results.

[Heorot]

Originally Posted by Bibio

surly you meant the M90 from Edinburgh to Perth. the A9 goes from Stirling to Perth.

you will also be pleased to know that Edinburgh will be a 20mph thought the whole city with 30 more speed cameras installed.

Yes, Bibio, you're right. M90. Lovely road, apart from the mindless idiots driving Chelsea tractors who don't seem to know what the mirrors are for.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

I cant be bothered doing a debate about it,but for anyone interested google national debt graphs and look at the long term results.

It's not that simple because graphs don't take into account things like one off structural expenditure and the sale of assets, they just show numbers.

[NTECUK]

Thing is the deficit means that we have to suck it up.
Plain and simple.
Welfare and other bennifits have all been hilighted .
Its a good thing that most of the electorate
(Discounting north of the boarder ) have realised this and not took the soft option .

[fizzwheel]

This is the sort of f**kwittery I am on about

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...bogey-men.html

How can you "protest" against the result of a democratic election... OK you might like the result, but some of the stuff she is coming out with is nuts...

[maviczap]

She's obviously needing some publicity for a new career

[timwilky]

A democratic process too place.

If people don't like it, change the system.

But think carefully before going down that line, otherwise there could be twice as many ukip MPs as SNP ones.

[Heorot]

To see what PR can lead to you only need to look as far as Israels's Knesset. There has never been a majority government, they have all been propped up by the ultra religious parties. There are currently 10 parties with representatives out of the 120 sitting ranging from 30 seats (Likud) down to 5 (Meretz). The biggest party, Likud, has only a quarter of the available seats and must make deals with the small parties.

That means that no radical solutions to the country's problems can ever happen.