Supersports 600's

Originally Posted by Moobie

Ride the girlfriends often.

[northwind]

I think Joe's wanting to find out how many of the people with an opinion on how peaky/weak in the middle IL4s are, have actually ridden one recently

I still don';t enjoy IL4s but then I've done practically all of my riding on twins so it's no wonder I find it hard to adapt If you try and ride them exactly like an SV they will bog down, but that's just because you're doing it wrong, not because the bike's weak...

I still reckon they should be tuning more for midrange on the supersports instead of peak, but that's just a personal preference. Most of the mods I've done on the SV have added to the midband too, I just think that's where it's most useable and useful.

[Balky001]

Originally Posted by northwind

I still reckon they should be tuning more for midrange on the supersports instead of peak, but that's just a personal preference. Most of the mods I've done on the SV have added to the midband too, I just think that's where it's most useable and useful.

I agree stronger mid range would be desirable, on all bikes. My Power Commander and Remus can are set up for more mod rather than top.

The mid range on the SV is around 4.5K and drops off after 8.5k and I think on my GSXR mid is 7K, but I still have more than another 7K to play with. I think that's that most difficult thing to adapt to when you jump from one bike to another. When I had the SV every IL4 rider would take it past the optimum change point and think top end was totally gutless. But i have to admit I never find changing gear a chore or even something I think about even when on a 200 mile run, so I always have good power to play with anyway. I do miss that thump though

I dont think you can really compare. Its like comparing an apple to an orange... theyre two totally different things and I like both for different reasons...

But its just my personal preference is to the V twins rather than the IL4s..

Originally Posted by rubberduckofdeath

I've owned a few more powerful bikes than the SV. Two are modern classics.

FZX750 Fazer (100bhp ish)
FZ750 Genesis (100bhp ish)
YZF600R Thundercat (100bhp)

I've also had these courtesy bikes

Fazer 1000cc (140bhp)
VFR800 (not sure)

I will be having a '97 GSXR600 in a few weeks too.

Oh, and i've had my licence for 3 years!

[Skip]

Originally Posted by mysteryjimbo

YZF600R Thundercat (100bhp)

What did you make of the Thundercat jimbo?

Originally Posted by Skip

What did you make of the Thundercat jimbo?

It's a lovely bike (mine was pinched). Not quite as nimble as the 'true' dedicated sports bikes. BUT it is a lot more comfortable when it comes to riding position and bike size. It feels spacious by comparison.

It easily keeps up with the newer bikes too.

I really enjoyed riding the Gaffa Ninja the past three months, short shifting mostly kept it fun, responsive and 'throwable' in the mid-range. I did feel like I wasn't really getting the best out of it though untill the last few weeks - which was good as I then got the Blade and was able to jump in half-way so to speak rather than learn with it from scratch.

I did feel like I got much more out of the SV every time I got back on it after Gaffa though. Everything was there waiting for me right through the range - BUT I think my experience on an IL4 made me use a VT to a greater degree of its potential than I had before.

To be honest, I was fine and having fun short-shifting it... but the appeal lies in the swift kick up the butt you get when you crank it at just the right moment.
A twin is smoother and so won't leave your stomach behind on the straight like a SS600.