British Justice is a joke

Originally Posted by medwaysv

bring back public humiliation of these scumbags

awaits the barrage of critiscism

dont matter that he didnt intend to kill him the fact that he attacked an innocent man for no reason.
stupid actions often lead to tragic consequences.
lets say that this poor unfortunate man survived..the youth should have got 3 years just for attacking him

Originally Posted by northwind

That's not "beating someone to death". That's doing something stupid, and having something extremely nlikely happen. I've no sympathy for the kid of course, but there was no intent to kill, or even likelihood that there'd be such a tragic outcome.

Agreed, but there was intent to hurt with the known possibility of it being more than a red cheek. The bottom line is this kids actions with the intent to hurt an innocent person resulted in a family being torn apart (I assume) and for that 3 years (18 months) really is not justice.

If I was the family I would be fuming/devastated.

Originally Posted by northwind

That's not "beating someone to death". That's doing something stupid, and having something extremely nlikely happen. I've no sympathy for the kid of course, but there was no intent to kill, or even likelihood that there'd be such a tragic outcome.

which is why it was manslaughter and not a murder charge.

[northwind]

Absolutely. The offence was recognised in the charge... I'm taking exception to the characterisation of it as "beating someone to death".

Of course there was intent to harm, I don't know what I said that could be read differently?

[Balky001]

The boy didn't slap the guy in a childish and foolish way, he was trying to knock the bloke out and fractured his jaw in 2 places. That was intent to cause serious harm which I think would have deserved 3 years had the guy recovered. The fact his action of pure violence (not misguide pranking around or riding too quickly) took a life deserves a longer sentence. I just don't know how good custodian sentences are, surely the worse you are the easier it is to serve - mostly decent people would find going to prison a lot more intimidating than thugs. Maybe he should get a slap, or is that a punch?

[Balky001]

Originally Posted by El Boccadillo

lets get us a posse and go a lynching - opps, showing my age now, ah the 30's (1830's), great times!

We need tougher detterants. You've got make the criminals think that they can't get away with what they do easily. Its about time judges got in touch with reality and started treating criminals more harshly by handing down longer sentences and forget the idea of early release, make them do their full time given. no time off for good behaviour and all that cr*p cos they just come out early and start all over again.

Originally Posted by Balky001

lets get us a posse and go a lynching - opps, showing my age now, ah the 30's (1830's), great times!

Yeah lets got back to the 30's.... the 1730's.

Stocks and rancid tomatoes.... hung drawn & quartered and all that jazz. (altho this probably happened long before this time! )

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by medwaysv

Yeah lets got back to the 30's.... the 1730's.

Stocks and rancid tomatoes.... hung drawn & quartered and all that jazz. (altho this probably happened long before this time! )

Public birchings! That would bring the ba*tards back to reality!