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Old 20-10-06, 02:20 PM   #31
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Dont look at bikes until you have decided you can afford it otherwise you may be influenced by impulse rather than logic.

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Don't be sorry, thats just the sort of ramble I want to hear!

This is both impulse (calculated of course) and logical to me. I wouldnt want the decision to also rest on my relationship with my GF.
Do you mean its your decision and your GF has no input or you dont want to upset her by doing it
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Old 20-10-06, 02:20 PM   #32
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Not the norm at all, that's just because I do silly milage.

100miles a day is just commuting, then there's play time on top of than, and the odd run when I need to be somewhere.
Phew! I thought i'd under estimated the whole thing! So how does your bike stand up to the daily 100 commute then?
Quite well actually, but then, I check levels before ANY ride, not just once a week or whatever the recommendation is. Chain tension is checked every 2 days max, when I'm at the petrol station.

General small maintenance, and she runs fine, whatever the weather
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Old 20-10-06, 02:23 PM   #33
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Dont look at bikes until you have decided you can afford it otherwise you may be influenced by impulse rather than logic.

Sorry to ramble
Don't be sorry, thats just the sort of ramble I want to hear!

This is both impulse (calculated of course) and logical to me. I wouldnt want the decision to also rest on my relationship with my GF.
Do you mean its your decision and your GF has no input or you dont want to upset her by doing it
Well like most on here there is a partner or another mode of transport i.e. car in the equation. If I split with my gf, its just me and the bike. So from that point of view I need to be happy if that happened. Which I would be.
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Old 20-10-06, 02:32 PM   #34
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Well in my opinion, if you would be happy either way GO FOR IT
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Old 20-10-06, 02:41 PM   #35
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Please don't shoot the messenger but if I wasn't doing most of my own servicing and I didn't have the money for servicing(I don't)I would seriously consider getting a second hand FZ6 600 2004-2006. It has 6000 mile oil changes/services and 26000 miles valve intervals. For some strange reason the average fuel consumption is listed as 51mpg in the 2006 Ride survey. Compare that to SV's 3500 mile service and 16000 mile valve job. I believe that the Z750 and Z750S have 7500 mile oil changes and 15000 mile valve service.
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Old 20-10-06, 02:49 PM   #36
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Please don't shoot the messenger but if I wasn't doing most of my own servicing and I didn't have the money for servicing(I don't)I would seriously consider getting a second hand FZ6 600 2004-2006. It has 6000 mile oil changes/services and 26000 miles valve intervals. For some strange reason the average fuel consumption is listed as 51mpg in the 2006 Ride survey. Compare that to SV's 3500 mile service and 16000 mile valve job. I believe that the Z750 and Z750S have 7500 mile oil changes and 15000 mile valve service.
I would never shoot the messenger! Yes the services and maintenance have to be taken into account and they have been. Though they might suck up more cash than I originally thought. But maybe not enough to sway me back
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Old 20-10-06, 02:54 PM   #37
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Well I drive a Ford Fiesta 1.4 Zetec. Group 6. Insurance is extortionate here. Due to high risk of theft in the greater Belfast area and already 100 roads deaths this year in NI. Fully comp for a bike, with my NCB and considering me age is around £800-£1000

Put it this way, expenditure for the car is:

£212+£130 per months insurance+£100 petrol per month = £440 approx

For the bike

£150+free(for this year) say £90 on ave +£80 petrol(due to some journeys not being made due to me being 'restricted' in that sense = £320

Does this not make sense?
Sorry don't have time to read whole thread but free insurance for a year equals depreciation cost in first year of brand new bike say £4600 less £3000 resale value equals £1600 for a year's free insurance?

Whereas a £1500 bike is not going to depreciate esp. buy now going into winter sell in the spring / summer for a profit.

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Old 20-10-06, 03:00 PM   #38
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Well I drive a Ford Fiesta 1.4 Zetec. Group 6. Insurance is extortionate here. Due to high risk of theft in the greater Belfast area and already 100 roads deaths this year in NI. Fully comp for a bike, with my NCB and considering me age is around £800-£1000

Put it this way, expenditure for the car is:

£212+£130 per months insurance+£100 petrol per month = £440 approx

For the bike

£150+free(for this year) say £90 on ave +£80 petrol(due to some journeys not being made due to me being 'restricted' in that sense = £320

Does this not make sense?
Sorry don't have time to read whole thread but free insurance for a year equals depreciation cost in first year of brand new bike say £4600 less £3000 resale value equals £1600 for a year's free insurance?

Whereas a £1500 bike is not going to depreciate esp. buy now going into winter sell in the spring / summer for a profit.

Just a thought
Just right too. But if i'm going to use this bike for the next lot of years every day would it not pay in the long run to buy new?

This hasn't become as clear cut as I think it should be. But then I always end up in pickles like this
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Old 20-10-06, 03:06 PM   #39
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Well I drive a Ford Fiesta 1.4 Zetec. Group 6. Insurance is extortionate here. Due to high risk of theft in the greater Belfast area and already 100 roads deaths this year in NI. Fully comp for a bike, with my NCB and considering me age is around £800-£1000

Put it this way, expenditure for the car is:

£212+£130 per months insurance+£100 petrol per month = £440 approx

For the bike

£150+free(for this year) say £90 on ave +£80 petrol(due to some journeys not being made due to me being 'restricted' in that sense = £320

Does this not make sense?
Sorry don't have time to read whole thread but free insurance for a year equals depreciation cost in first year of brand new bike say £4600 less £3000 resale value equals £1600 for a year's free insurance?

Whereas a £1500 bike is not going to depreciate esp. buy now going into winter sell in the spring / summer for a profit.

Just a thought
It just makes so much more sense than buying new - especially when trying to set yourself up for the future. You will find lots of bargains around the next few months. I brought my bike around this time and 2 years later sold it for a small profit.

You may find that biking isnt for you - or it doesnt really suit your needs and then you will have to sell it again and take the wack on the depreciation etc...
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Old 20-10-06, 03:08 PM   #40
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I'm beginning to think this isn't going to be such a good idea
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