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Old 21-10-06, 02:56 PM   #31
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One long essay later it can be summised as this:

1. The point of the sight is to take this to governments, law enforcement agencies, ISPs etc. This presumes they are doing nothing or are unaware of the problem which is simply not true. They are fully active in this field. They are simply prioritising on the really horrific stuff which is simply not what you get on lolita sites tbh.

2. If you want to do something, do something. How many people will only leave it as a click on a link? If you want to make a REAL difference you have to feel strongly enough to get up off your **** and leave your computer behind and donate or volunteer for charities working to change the law, alleviate poverty or protect children. For intance, Childline NEED volunteers now, if people did that that would actually be helping children for real, more so than simply clicking a link.
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Old 21-10-06, 04:17 PM   #32
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It is a crying shame that such a well intentioned thread has turned into petty bickering.

Ed my friend.
Maybe my approach could be better put.

But, simply put, I think these sorts of sites are worse than usless. I group them together with those emails you get saying "forward this on to all your mates and you will have a good day". Best case scenario is nothing happens.

This site is worse than that, (IMO), because the user is left thinking, there, ahh, made a difference there, I did my part.
When they didnt.
They did nothing of the sort. A server incremented an integer variable somewhere. Nothing else happened. No one stopped molesting a kid. No one became more aware about kids being molested.

The idea that now, people need to be reminded that child molestors exist is absurd. There has been a media frenzy and a hysteria so pronounced that BrassEye did a mock special on paedophilia.

There were child molestors under every bed and on every computer in the country. Every priest had to be watched. When I am out playing with kids on the road when i come back from work, I have to make sure everything I do cannot be construed as wierd.

So, yeah, "lighting candles", clicking on a candle gif on your Web browser, come on.

Maybe the post was intentioned well. Maybe those post this email on to all your friends for luck are well intentioned.

It still doesnt mean its not a load of rubbish.
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Old 21-10-06, 04:19 PM   #33
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Hell no, the well meant concept of the lighting of candles is not going to make one bit of difference. But it does no harm for people who find the subject matter disgusting to let themselves be known.
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Old 21-10-06, 04:20 PM   #34
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And... having just read lyn's above post... I have to say I agree.

If you are going to do something, do something. Dont "Click here to save the world". Dont kid yourself. Do it or dont do it. Dont just talk sh!te and click links.
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Old 21-10-06, 09:11 PM   #35
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Old 22-10-06, 01:33 PM   #36
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It is a crying shame that such a well intentioned thread has turned into petty bickering.

Ed my friend.
Maybe my approach could be better put.

But, simply put, I think these sorts of sites are worse than usless. I group them together with those emails you get saying "forward this on to all your mates and you will have a good day". Best case scenario is nothing happens.

This site is worse than that, (IMO), because the user is left thinking, there, ahh, made a difference there, I did my part.
When they didnt.
They did nothing of the sort. A server incremented an integer variable somewhere. Nothing else happened. No one stopped molesting a kid. No one became more aware about kids being molested.

The idea that now, people need to be reminded that child molestors exist is absurd. There has been a media frenzy and a hysteria so pronounced that BrassEye did a mock special on paedophilia.

There were child molestors under every bed and on every computer in the country. Every priest had to be watched. When I am out playing with kids on the road when i come back from work, I have to make sure everything I do cannot be construed as wierd.

So, yeah, "lighting candles", clicking on a candle gif on your Web browser, come on.

Maybe the post was intentioned well. Maybe those post this email on to all your friends for luck are well intentioned.

It still doesnt mean its not a load of rubbish.
Read all the comments on this thread so far but i have to say this sums it up best for me.
Its also the reason why i dont give money to big charities cos all i realy think it does is make me feel good that ive done something to help. But in reality i dont believe that money i give goes very far to helping those i give to, rather it helps the chrity pay for more printing/website costs to promote itself.
Now days i'd rather just give my cash to the homeless. A lot of people say to me "But he's only gonna waste it on drink or drugs" well good for him, cos after i'd paid my rent and bills that all i'd be wasting it on too

If people wanna make a real change they need to get off their sofas and go out and show themsleves i believe.
I marched against the Iraq war, knowing it wont really make a diffrence and the govt will never listen to the electorate over this type of issue but at least i was there to show suuport.
I marched against the Criminal Justice Bill and before that the Poll Tax, again knowing these things relly wont make a diffrence but at least we were all out there being seen to be trying to do something.
Sitting on your ****, clicking a mouse on a webiste IMHO amounts to F all as far as doing something goes. It makes you feel like youve done your bit, its soothing yourself. Nothing more.

Now look at Brian Haw. How many of you know who he even is i wonder 9without resorting to google or the like i mean) To me he's the living embodiment of doing something that you feel very strongly about. He's like me and you not just some nutter who has nothing better to do. he has a wife and kids who miss him dearly but support him totaly. He's rissens above govt attemts to shut him up and all because he wants others to have a better life then they have and for Govt around the world to do something to stop the sufferign that is happening on a daily basis.

thats doing something. Click a mose and add a digit?
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Old 22-10-06, 01:37 PM   #37
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i lit it a while ago

cant see the point myself,as i dont think it will do any good.

& when people get caught doing things they should' ent they practicaly get off with it(but dont get me started i got to be in work for 3pm)

but lit all the same
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Old 22-10-06, 02:31 PM   #38
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You guys are making me laugh

A lot of assumptions being made as I see it.

Anyways if we are to say generally speaking "The world runs on Bullsnutse" then maybe we could say we humans produce it. Seeing as there are a multitude of different shades in humans, maybe the difference is just in the type of bullsnutse.

Maybe some are talking bullsnutse and doing nothing
Maybe some are talking bullsnutse and clicking on a mouse
Maybe some are talking bullsnutse and doing stuff which amounts to nothing.

That being the case the sum total of the all the different ****e amounts to the same. A whole lot of feckall. No?


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Old 22-10-06, 03:34 PM   #39
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Well I doubt BabyJ was trying to change the world with this thread. By posting this she does bring attention to the issue and maybe her post will have spurred someone into making a donation to a charity or engageing in some sort of charitable work. Who knows? But it's better to make the thread than not make it.
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Well I doubt BabyJ was trying to change the world with this thread. By posting this she does bring attention to the issue and maybe her post will have spurred someone into making a donation to a charity or engageing in some sort of charitable work. Who knows? But it's better to make the thread than not make it.
Agree so now do you want to buy a book or what

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