To unrestrict or not..

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Cannot argue with your comment about it doesn't matter damage wise whether restricted or not.

However what about the attitude part.

If they are not willing to abide by the rules with regards to what they can ride, why should you assume they will abide by the other rules.

Rules such as slowing down in 20mph zones near schools.......

Speedings speeding, and since we all do it, that attitude argument is weaker than American larger.

Originally Posted by Luckypants

Riding an unrestricted bike on a restricited license is the same as riding with no license, no insurance etc

For the umpteenth time, NO IT ISN'T!

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Speedings speeding, and since we all do it, that attitude argument is weaker than American larger.



For the umpteenth time, NO IT ISN'T!

Rubbish.

There is a difference between doing 100+ on the M1 and 50 in a 30.

People are too focused on speed - its inappropriate speed thats the problem, which, is something that camera's cant detect.

My arguement is that someone without the judgement to stay legal with regards to riding permissions doesnt have the judgment to ride appropriately.

As for the "its the same thing" I will give you that, because in order to have a restricted license then the person has to have had training/done a test.

However it all comes down to attitude again....

Originally Posted by SoulKiss

Rubbish.

There is a difference between doing 100+ on the M1 and 50 in a 30.

Says you.

[Bluepete]

From experience, (read; attending, on average 3 bumps a day for the last 2 and a half years) if you have fully comp. cover and are found to be riding a modified bike involved in an RTC where you are blameworthy, then the insurance company will cover the third party's costs of repair. You will get nothing. If you hold TPFT insurance, they usually still pay out.
The same applies to drivers who have stated they have a full car licence to the insurance company but then have a crash whilst only holding a provisional. The third party is covered, the driver isn't.
HTH!
Pete

Originally Posted by Steve_God

By which point the bike is already back home awaiting to be picked up by the approved insurance repair company with the standard (restricted) ECU in

that was my point, insures will check probably, yes, but by that time its already got the 33 ECU in it!

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Speedings speeding, and since we all do it, that attitude argument is weaker than American larger.



For the umpteenth time, NO IT ISN'T!

+1 there its a lesser offence of driving not in accordance with your licence ,a bit like getting caught with no L plates on etc .

[Rich]

Not this again !!!!!!

[Bluepete]

It's funny how the forum is divided isn't it? I mean, half the folks seem quite keen to point out the illegality of riding with the full power ECU whilst only holding a restricted licence and the other half seem to advocate the illegal and potentially criminal act of changing the ECU prior to the bike examination.

I'm sure I just heard about a 70 something year old being imprisoned for taking speeding points for his son to prevent the son being banned.
Just a thought that flitted through my mind, feel free to ignore, but if caught, please read the bit below.

[fizzwheel]

Just a thought, surely a legal way of trying a full power bike would be to take the bike to a track day...

Ride it there with 33bhp ECU, get to track, swap over and then hoon round all day and then swap back again and then ride back.

Seems a sensible and legal ? way to go about doing it ?

Hi,

I de-restricted my bike after a month's restriction, I got fed up with how it felt slower than my RS125 which I still owned at the time. It feels soo much nicer, even if you're not going to thrash it, and it will save you money in fuel as the engine's running better (may not be true on Fi bikes).

I'd say go for it, you don't have to open the throttle all at once; get used to the feel gradually and you'll be fine. As long as you have the self-control it's got to be better; extra power means quicker and therefore safer overtakes etc. When de-restricted the bike won't be intimidating anyways, there isn't that much power!

Thanks, Larry.