Are ghosts real? -Genuine evidence from a sceptic

When we lived in Saltash I used to see an elderly lady on the stairs of our house. She was always looking upwards. So I thought there must be something up in the loft. I discoverd her beautiful silver cutlery, milk jug, and salt and pepper pots. The previous owners had lived there for 15 years and had never found them. It was obvious that the elderly lady - who had died in the house - wanted us to have them.

And then last year, about March it was, I saw Anne's dad in my old office. He was standing there, smiling at me - and then he simply disappeared. Nothing exceptional about that, save for the fact that he died 6 years ago.

All this was in broad daylight, and I hadn't touched a drop.

Nope, not real.

How bizarre would it be if they were real, but for some reason were doing an absolutely incredible job at keeping it a secret to the point where it never moves past "myth". I mean come on, if you've seen enough to believe it as fact, why on earth aren't you the first person in the world to collect and document this irrefutable evidence? You'd be famous, and you'd be believed. You have a ghost in your house that "performs" nightly, you make some kind of record of that!

...You're not all being serious are you?...

Not a ghost i saw but just as wierd,
Was asleep about years ago, warm summers night, very still and muggy and the window was open, next thing curtains came flying inwards, knocked the alarm clock off the window, didnt think much of it and went back to sleep, few hours later had a call off my dad saying that our grandad had died at 5:30am....looked at my alarm clock and it was at 5:30 when the curtains flew open and the clock stopped, probably coincedence but all a bit close for my liking

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by sinbad

Nope, not real.

How bizarre would it be if they were real, but for some reason were doing an absolutely incredible job at keeping it a secret to the point where it never moves past "myth". I mean come on, if you've seen enough to believe it as fact, why on earth aren't you the first person in the world to collect and document this irrefutable evidence? You'd be famous, and you'd be believed. You have a ghost in your house that "performs" nightly, you make some kind of record of that!

I guess its one of those things that you know no one will believe unless they experience it for themselves.

Would you belive a tape recording of footsteps really came from upstairs or would you just say "you recorded that somewhere else"
And also most of these things happen when you aint expecting them not when you're wandering about with a camcorder waiting ofr a You've Been Framed moment to happen.

Loads of TV programs that show these things yet they all get laughed at for being "set ups" I saw an episode once where the cameraman had been scratched by something. yet he was holding his camera and couldnt have done it himself. Also he was wearing 2 or 3 layers and they were all tucked in to his jeans. The other cameraman filmed his shirts being lifted to show 3 or 4 deep scratches that had drawn blood that was still fresh on his t-shirt. Everone in the room freaked and said "thats it!!! thats what it does to all of us"
Yet you didnt see that as the lead for the 10 o'clock news. "Ghosts are real, heres the proof"
there will always be doubters of te best evidence.

Look at how many people still belive that the twin towers really did fall becase of the planes that hit them.
Even tho the Empire state building was hit by a B52 bomber many years before and didnt fall over or implode.
One of the bomber's engines completely penetrated the Empire State Building, and fell from the opposite side. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and severed the cable of an elevator car carrying two women, sending it into free fall.
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But it is nonsense, only people who believe in it experience it because they allow themselves to believe. There's as much proof as the tooth fairy existing. If they did exist why do they spend their life aimlessly moving cups around?!


also... do you get animal ghosts? why aren't we overun by them? If they communicate why can't they tell us something interesting about the past? why can't they be proved? Why is it that people who strongly argue their case are the ones that make money out of them?..

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Even tho the Empire state building was hit by a B52 bomber many years before and didnt fall over or implode.

They're massive! I've seen one in a hangar, there must have been a foot of space between the wing tips and the wall!

Originally Posted by Spiderman

I guess its one of those things that you know no one will believe unless they experience it for themselves.

Would you belive a tape recording of footsteps really came from upstairs or would you just say "you recorded that somewhere else"
And also most of these things happen when you aint expecting them not when you're wandering about with a camcorder waiting ofr a You've Been Framed moment to happen.

Loads of TV programs that show these things yet they all get laughed at for being "set ups" I saw an episode once where the cameraman had been scratched by something. yet he was holding his camera and couldnt have done it himself. Also he was wearing 2 or 3 layers and they were all tucked in to his jeans. The other cameraman filmed his shirts being lifted to show 3 or 4 deep scratches that had drawn blood that was still fresh on his t-shirt. Everone in the room freaked and said "thats it!!! thats what it does to all of us"
Yet you didnt see that as the lead for the 10 o'clock news. "Ghosts are real, heres the proof"
there will always be doubters of te best evidence.

Look at how many people still belive that the twin towers really did fall becase of the planes that hit them.
Even tho the Empire state building was hit by a B52 bomber many years before and didnt fall over or implode.
One of the bomber's engines completely penetrated the Empire State Building, and fell from the opposite side. The other engine flew into an elevator shaft and severed the cable of an elevator car carrying two women, sending it into free fall.
More here

"The best evidence" is not some show like Derek McCormack's exploitative farce, or any of the ones which promise to show you something spooky and would be disappointing if they failed to deliver.

I think it's also odd that you would form an opinion based on a story of a different plane, obviously a B25 not the MUCH larger 52 (and which I doubt was carrying 10,000 gallons of jet fuel btw, although I stand to be corrected) hitting a different building and then use that as a point of argument, suggesting that non-believers are simply naive. The theory that the WTC was brought down by controlled explosives has been rejected by scientists, principally of the National Institute of Standards and Technology. I believe there is an element of going against the grain which makes conspiracy theories so exciting, and possibly that applies to ghosts as well. I'm not saying believe what you're told and not what you see, I'm just saying believe what you believe because there is evidence to back it, not because there is none to discount it.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

Look at how many people still belive that the twin towers really did fall becase of the planes that hit them.

Wow, maybe because that is what happened and all the evidence is there to support it as well. I have no doubt that he USA is a courupt place and would have loved an excuse to go after Sadam and all the other terror nations., but to murder so many of its own citizens??

I bet you belive that the Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile as well.