NI Number talk

Originally Posted by Ed

Hypothetical quezzie maybe, but I want to know whether the objectors here would simply let the EU or whoever walk on in and not resist.

Corrected for you, Ed.

Originally Posted by Ed

. In an age of ICBMs I don't know what that bit would be.

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Simple carry out the IA (immediate action )drill of either vapourise on the spot or throw yourself up in the air in hudereds of bits and scatter yourself across a 100m radius!!

Originally Posted by neio79

Do you think if the country got to the state of needing conscription the government would give a f**k if people started going ohh its against my human rights and ill take you to court, chances are Europe wouldent exist anymore .

oh and point A should just read reason- Spineless Coward. The second point i cant understand much as all protected trades like police fire medical services are immune anyhow.

I think the government would find it quite hard to imprison people for failing to comply with a Conscription Order - if they hadn't given due process to their own legal system.

Also, point A is intended for those that cannot hold any civilian work. Conscription applies to all British subjects (regardless of gender) aged between 18 and 51 (not 40 as you previously stated), with the following exceptions:
- British subjects that have previously been granted asylum for any reason, so long as this wasn't more than 2 years previous to the Conscription Order.
- People employed by the government of the British Empire, except the UK.
- Clergy.
- Mental patients, or indeed, anyone with any mental disability.
- Blind people.
- Married women.
- Women with children under 14 years old.

Maybe worth pointing out that pregnant women can also be conscripted (legally), but in practice never were.

To take an example of a member of the forum that I reckon would be granted category A Concencious Objection (if they claimed it) would be mister_c. He could, if he chose, fulfil some form of military role (and I don't doubt that he would try), but equally, if he chose to object, he cannot medically hold civilian work (despite the fact I know he's itching to get back to work!).

There are other industries that would be vital to the operation of the country, yet are not protected by the laws surrounding Conscription. For example, power generation for the national grid.

Point B is designed more as a "We recognise your right to object, however, you must hold civilian work otherwise you may as well be in the military." Basically, if you're category B, and you're fired or laid off, then expect to have a gun in your hand quite quickly. Naturally that's subject to an intermediary term, which IIRC, was 7 days.

EDIT: Given that I know where you're coming from Neio, before you mention the option of lining up Conciencious Objectors & using a Firing Squad, I'll throw in "War Crime."

Originally Posted by Baph

There are other industries that would be vital to the operation of the country, yet are not protected by the laws surrounding Conscription. For example, power generation for the national grid.

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not really, similaer to the WW2, the people who couldent go ( women with kids etc) and under 18's and over 40's would do those jobs.

Originally Posted by neio79

Simple carry out the IA (immediate action )drill of either vapourise on the spot or throw yourself up in the air in hudereds of bits and scatter yourself across a 100m radius!!

Think I'll spend the weekend tying bits of wool to a security fence at a US airbase. That'll stop the nuclear stuff.

Originally Posted by Baph

EDIT: Given that I know where you're coming from Neio, before you mention the option of lining up Conciencious Objectors & using a Firing Squad, I'll throw in "War Crime."

Nah that is a waste of people who in war would be capable of cleaning up after the rest of us with some ball and doing all the sh*t jobs while the rest of us get on with fighting to defend our homeland.

Originally Posted by neio79

not really, similaer to the WW2, the people who couldent go ( women with kids etc) and under 18's and over 40's would do those jobs.

Again, the upper age limit for Conscription is 51. This was changed in 1918, in the fourth revision of the Military Service Act.

You have to accept though that those not eligible for Conscription may not fulfill all required roles in civilian employment.

Anyhow, I only waded into this to clarify that actually, yes, people do actually have an option about Conscription. Granted that option is limited by the outcome of the tribunal, but the option still remains.

Originally Posted by Baph

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You have to accept though that those not eligible for Conscription may not fulfill all required roles in civilian employment.

Anyhow, I only waded into this to clarify that actually, yes, people do actually have an option about Conscription. Granted that option is limited by the outcome of the tribunal, but the option still remains.

not really, anyone can generally be trained to do anyhting. And as we are talking hypothetically about a WW3 and the Uk's boundry defence only sessential services would really carry on normally most industrys would be wound down for the duration.

yes the trubunal would give them an option. Although it would hopefully consist of mainly military and defence staff to listen to the snivilling cowards plead their case before f*8king them off to the nearest barracks for training and preperation for war.

Originally Posted by neio79

yes the trubunal would give them an option. Although it would hopefully consist of mainly military and defence staff to listen to the snivilling cowards plead their case before f*8king them off to the nearest barracks for training and preperation for war.

*said in a Hugh Laurie kind of voice*

C'mon guys, differential diagnosis for this one. I'll start with hormonal inbalance, too much testosterone!

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Filipe M.

*said in a Hugh Laurie kind of voice*

C'mon guys, differential diagnosis for this one. I'll start with hormonal inbalance, too much testosterone!

A couple of blackadder quotes come to mind