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Old 16-12-08, 10:30 PM   #41
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Steering dampers mask a poor chassis and suspension set-up, it is not a cure.
Not sure that i agree with that. I think when you take the geometry beyond a certain point on any bike that a steering damper is a benefit. I've no experience of this with th sv though so i guess it must be really soft as standard if you can do all that and it not feel twitchy. But that takes us off topic a bit
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Old 17-12-08, 07:52 AM   #42
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Not sure that i agree with that. I think when you take the geometry beyond a certain point on any bike that a steering damper is a benefit.
Many race teams actually run with the damper at the minimum setting, the damper is there to turned up when they cannot get the chassis set-up correctly. For example in the 2007 BSB season Haslam ran his damper on a low setting, Kiyonari's was actually disconnected, on a bike which had a fantastic chassis and a steep steering angle.

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I've no experience of this with th sv though so i guess it must be really soft as standard if you can do all that and it not feel twitchy.
The SV has a great chassis, only let down by the front and rear suspension.
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Old 17-12-08, 10:13 AM   #43
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I stand in awe of your superior knowledge!

I had planned on sorting my curvy's suspension out over winter. Hagon springs, thicker roil, replacement shock (ZX6R, GXSR or similar - still reseacrching). I wasn't going to jack up until I could afford a damper but now I think I'll do it and see what happens.
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Old 17-12-08, 10:22 AM   #44
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I stand in awe of your superior knowledge!
Just experience, been playing with SV's since 1999 and many other models before and after.

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ZX6R, GXSR or similar - still reseacrching
I personally am not a fan of the swaps, yes it is an improvement over stock but the shock was not designed and even set-up for an SV. A proper SV designed race shock is another huge step over a swapped shock.

A Hagon or the cheaper Ohlins (for a Pointy) is a good upgrade at a lower cost.
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Old 17-12-08, 10:26 AM   #45
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I don't want to hijack this thread so I might post separately when the times comes. But quite simpy I can't afford a purpose built race shock so I either swap for another bike's unit or leave it as standard. Figured another bike's unit would be better if I give it the proper thought.

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Old 17-12-08, 10:38 AM   #46
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I don't want to hijack this thread so I might post separately when the times comes.
Use this thead...

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=119062
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Old 17-12-08, 09:23 PM   #47
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i've just bought replacement dog bones to raise the rear end, for cosmetic purposes really (the sv is long and low anyway, but even more so with my fat ass perched on it!)

Does anyone have any before and after photos of jacking their bike up?, as given what i've read here, i might not do it yet unless its actually visibly noticeable.

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Old 18-12-08, 02:37 PM   #48
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I personally am not a fan of the swaps, yes it is an improvement over stock but the shock was not designed and even set-up for an SV. A proper SV designed race shock is another huge step over a swapped shock.
Maybe so, but nowhere near the improvement-per-£
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Old 19-12-08, 07:57 AM   #49
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Darren, it's only an inch or so really. If it's looks you're after then "invest" in a different bit of plastic for the back end. You won't like it when it rains though. Have you got the preload and spring weight right, if you're somewhat corpulent?
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Old 19-12-08, 08:54 AM   #50
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Steering dampers mask a poor chassis and suspension set-up, it is not a cure.
funny,most better handling bikes have them stock from factory
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