Jail for standing up to drug dealer

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

Quite.

That and the previous post suggesting what he really did 'wrong' was showing the Plod up is what got him nicked.

Scandalous.

How could such a thing be suggested

He should have got a community trust action award and a medal.

I hope the scumbag drug dealer has since been busted and jailed! after all the police now know what he does? oh no of course not - not enough evidence - it all went down the bog

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by Lozzo

He should have got a community trust action award and a medal.

Now Im not usually an advocate for vigilante action,but in this case I cant argue with Lozzo.

[Mr Speirs]

Still can anybody tell me what crime he committed?
Breach of the peace isn't a jailable offence.

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by Mr Speirs

Still can anybody tell me what crime he committed?
Breach of the peace isn't a jailable offence.

It is, at least it is in Scotland. http://www.scotland.gov.uk/consultations/sah-03.asp, scroll down a bit.

[Mr Speirs]

Mmm it seems it is punishable by imprisonment in Scotland. I bow to you Mr Luckypants. (When is NW4.5???)
I actually do agree with this stance on breach of the peace however not in this case. The man was only trying to do what any father/brother would do in this circumstance.

I read with dismay how many people form an opinion purely on a few paragraphs on the BBC website.

Firstly to sentence someone rather than give them community service or a fine or a slap on the wrist for breach of the peace really does suggest previous and he is therefore likely not to be the hard done by chap he claims.

Just because his vigilanty acts happened to get the right people, it should have no bearing on the case as it is wrong to take the law into your own hands.

The police dont have magic radars for this and unless we help them by giving them information what are they supposed to do? conversely his actions may have scuppered a long standing operation which instead of netting quite a few dealers and suppliers they end up with nothing.

Lastly and this will probably get me some stick, I whole heartedly believe in the drug dealers rights. If we start taking away rights like this then where will it end? Do you really want your son or daughter beaten up in their own home and the police turn around and say "well he waved his rights because we found a spliff in the kitchen, therefore we aint gonna do anything"

In my opinion the legal system in this country is actually very good and generally speaking judges will try adn act blind to knee jerk press banter. The only thing I have issue with is recent so called anti terror laws. This is what deserves your attention, not this non story clap trap.

Ill get me soap box

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Rog

it is wrong to take the law into your own hands.

In my opinion the legal system in this country is actually very good and generally speaking judges will try adn act blind to knee jerk press banter. The only thing I have issue with is recent so called anti terror laws. This is what deserves your attention, not this non story clap trap.

Point 1: Legally, only if you get caught. Morally ... ???? As far as I am concerned the laws of a nation have no bearing on morality.

Point 2: I agree

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

Hearsay? Slander? The prosecution stated:

"On Sunday at 5.30pm, the accused, who was under the influence of alcohol, went to the address and demanded entry. He was allowed into the hallway and began shouting and swearing at Nellies.
'He continued to shout and swear and threatened to kill Nellies if he continued to supply heroin to members of his family."

(my emphasis)

The defence did not contest this account.

So before you go accusing Sherrifs of slander, perhaps you should base your answer on proven facts, not hearsay.

"The prosecution stated"? Just because they did not contest this as fact does not mean it happened. There is sod all proof there.

Personally I reckon "sell my brother/sister/son/daughter drugs again and I'm going to shoot you" seems a perfectly fair statement to make to someone. And if half of the w4nkers prosecuting this had been in similar situation, or indeed justifying this as you are matt, then they would hang up their wigs.