DWDC, Driving w/o insurance, leaving the scene of an accident

Well, I did pass a car at the side of the road with a camera on a tripod and 'DVLA CHECK' flashing on a LED sign in the back window. First time I've ever seen one, and about blimmin' time too.

If he is pleading guilty the CPS will fast track it, he will get a date within about 3 weeks. He needs to start thinking about a plea in mitigation. There is an art to this, a good mitigation makes a lot of difference.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

Maximum penalties:

-Driving without insurance: 6-8 points, discretionary ban, fine upto £5000
-Leaving the scene of an accident: 5-10 points, discretionary ban, fine upto £5000 or upto 6 months imprisonment
-DWDC: 3-9 points, discretionary ban, fine upto £2500

Source = internet so make of it what you will, but i'd buy him soap-on-a-rope for his birthday this year...

As above, no sympathy, you don't just "clip" another vehicle hard enough to break trim and lights and not feel it...

+1, I hope he gets all of the above. Why should he get out of paying insurance, when the majority of honest road users pay out sometimes silly amounts to be insured? It isnt fair. I hope he has it harsh to be quite honest.

Originally Posted by Ed

If he is pleading guilty the CPS will fast track it, he will get a date within about 3 weeks. He needs to start thinking about a plea in mitigation. There is an art to this, a good mitigation makes a lot of difference.

I dont see what mitigating factors driving without insurance would be. I assume dirivng without insurance is a strict liablilty offence?

Originally Posted by Magnum

I dont see what mitigating factors driving without insurance would be. I assume dirivng without insurance is a strict liablilty offence?

Yes, it is - but the mitigation is in respect of the punishment, not the offence. Depends on the reasons for it, the length of time he was uninsured, whether he realised he had no cover, why he was driving at that particular moment (eg was it an emergency to get someone to hospital), all that sort of thing. Holding your hand up and accepting the offence and in particular the stupidity of it goes a long way to mitigate.

The fine for no insurance is never enough. Seems to me that people can get stopped and fined several times and still works out cheaper than getting insurance. Wheres the deterant? I think they should work out what the insurance would have been and double it. Theres an immediate deterant. Naturally theres still the other offences.
Not good news for your mate but it seems like many of us have been victims of hit and run and getting p1ssed off with it. I agree that the severity of some offences against others seems mad with the fines and points but thats so called British justice nowadays.

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Originally Posted by daved407

The fine for no insurance is never enough. Seems to me that people can get stopped and fined several times and still works out cheaper than getting insurance. Wheres the deterant?

Correct. The average fine for no insurance is about £300. The cost of insurance? well, just ask Plowsie and his missus! It's well worth the risk from a monetary point of view. Plus, the insurance companies don't check your licence or whether you have any points/convictions, so a few lies chops the cost of insurance if you can be bothered. Only going to be a problem if you have a bump.