Death Penalty Poll

Originally Posted by barwel1992

no one sead it had to be a quick death ... maybe accelerated ageing is the answer (so they die faster)

"Cruel and unusual punishment" is the phrase that springs to mind.

Originally Posted by barwel1992

no one sead it had to be a quick death ... maybe accelerated ageing is the answer (so they die faster)

WHAT!!! What a ridiculous suggestion! If we have a death penalty it cannot be done in an inhuman manner!

^ they reap what they sew

the death penalty is already inhumane just depends how far you want to go

No never.

Jas...

p.s now that discussion has been completed :P
the real debate is prison & the lack of it been a ****ty place to be , it seems logical to make prison a terrible place ( & by terrible i really do mean it ) No TVs no phones nothing to make there lives more bearable , manual labour 12 hrs a day 7 days a week & no payment for it, i would make prison the last place on earth anyone would want to be, then lets see how many repeat offenders we have.

^ yup i agree with that

(apart from i want the death penalty for SOME)

[BanannaMan]

Hmmm ....Looks I'm not going to be the popular kid in this thread.



I am btw the only person here who lives in a state where there really is a death penalty.
And yes, we executed 2 in November. 1 by lethal injection and one in the electric chair.

However the death penalty is only for those convicted of murder and then only the worst/sickest of those.
Mostly (but not limited too) those who have tortured, raped, etc. their victims, or a terrorist act or those who have killed a policeman (or woman).
Even then there are many "court appeals" along the way to try to overturn the verdict.
DNA and fingerprints are quite credible evidence here and I do support that 100%. An eyewitness is not always required to determain guilt.
But those who get the death penalty are not people who might be innocent. Again there are many appeals and the death penalty is not something given out in every homocide case.

The sick bastwerds that are put to death in Virginia all deserve to die IMHO.
I have no problem with it at all.







I'll get my coat now.....

Yes

You take a life you lose your life, simples

Rapists and peadeos can go on that list too

It should be incorprated in the lotto. 49 people convicted of the worst crimes are on plinths with a noose around their neck. six numbers and the bonus ball comes up and the other 42 end up swaying

Think of the ratings

Originally Posted by Spiderman

D'oh! thats a pretty quick contradiction you got going on there aint it?

Also, please read back to my original post, i say ONLY where guilt is in no doubt so it kinda removes the ability for the state to abuse the power.

Why? When evidence can quite easily be fabricated...I'm sure if they took a disliking to your political stance (or whatever for that reason), you could be framed for a crime you didn't commit but 99% of the population would believe you were guilty. Conspiracy theorist? I just see myself not being naive.

[skeetly]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

D'oh! thats a pretty quick contradiction you got going on there aint it?

Also, please read back to my original post, i say ONLY where guilt is in no doubt so it kinda removes the ability for the state to abuse the power.

Fair comment. You said not much chat though; this makes it difficult to write it all down so I went for the shortest version I felt I could get away with It was late too.

**IF**:

1. There is no doubt with regards to guilt.
2. There was no 'noble' cause for doing it.
3. Murderer wasn't mentally imbalanced

Then it would seem to be be fair enough.
But thats the problem isn't it? It gets too complicated.
If you decide later it was wrong then you can't say sorry.

Nope, I still think we shouldn't have it

edit:snipped an emotive bit within a few minutes of posting so sorry if you have already responded

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by thulfi

I think pretty much almost any human being can be pushed to a point where they see or endure something where they would be prepared to kill the other party (not in an act of self defence) but justice in the eye of the beholder in the form of vengeance.

Before my head gets bitten off, can everyone safely say if they saw somebody with their own eyes torture/rape/murder people in their own family (or if you can think of something even worse) and then handed over a gun would not kill that person. If they would (which I reckon most people would), it immediately means they are willing to kill as retaliation, thus undermining their 'opposition' to capital punishment in the first place.

As virtually noone here has been pushed to such limits (i hope), and lets hope nobody does, then those who say they oppose capital punishment might find out something very different about themselves if the worst was to happen.

Dying is too good a punishment for some people.

This is exactly why we are meant to have a dispassionate justice system which takes a step back from all that and decides what to do.I should say that there is a world of difference between an agrieved individual or family wanting to kill the criminal (totally understandable and not at all wrong IMO)and the state doing it as amatter of policy.As an opponent of judicial capital punishment I would be more than happy to kill the criminal personally in the scenario you show above,but that would be an emotional response which has no place in state punishment.