What do you think to Apple?

[jamesterror]

Originally Posted by L3nny

Plus if I had one I'd just install Windows because of the lack of programs available.

Thats one of my main issues bar price

[fastdruid]

At one point apple were (partly) justified in prices for their 'PC', they were not 'IBM compatible' but Motorola/Power based. Different hardware, different OS.

Now they are just IBM compatible hardware but with a custom bios and some checks to make sure no one runs their OS.

I'd give OSX a try (and I would buy it if I liked it) but I'm not paying *waay* over the odds for standard (if pretty) PC hardware.

Druid

Originally Posted by fastdruid

At one point apple were (partly) justified in prices for their 'PC', they were not 'IBM compatible' but Motorola/Power based. Different hardware, different OS.

Now they are just IBM compatible hardware but with a custom bios and some checks to make sure no one runs their OS.

I'd give OSX a try (and I would buy it if I liked it) but I'm not paying *waay* over the odds for standard (if pretty) PC hardware.

Druid

I used to run Linux and Windows, until I bought a Mac for Mrs Wyrdness. I thought that I'd carry on my existing PCs, but found that I was using the Mac for everything. I much prefer OS X to either Linux or Windows, and that's coming from a former Linux nut.

The main downside is that Apple hardware is expensive. However, it hardly depreciates. I've just sold a Mac laptop on Ebay for only £60 less than I bought it for three years ago. Try doing that with a three year old PC laptop. Despite (or maybe because of) the initial high prices, total cost of ownership of Macs is actually lower than PCs.

So from my point of view, I'm getting the best operating system, plus lower overall cost.

Originally Posted by keithd

to my ignorant mind it seems those that work in the "IT industry" (for want of a better phrase) dislike Apple and their products on the whole. Those of us who don't i.e billions of normal people like their products a lot.

and there are hundreds of thousands who HAVE to have whatever they churn out regardless of how good or bad it is and keep the prices inflated

i just work in packaging so have no idea what im talking about

This used to be true, but I think that things have changed now. A lot of people who work in IT are now buying Macs. I put it down to OS X being a great desktop Unix-based operating system.

On the other hand, some geeks really hate Apple because they're only looking at the technical specs and prices, and can't see beyond that. They seem to think that if a product doesn't meet their needs then anybody who does buy it is automatically an idiot.

I used macs at work for quite a few years but I still have PCs at home and have absolutely no intention of changing that.

As for music players, yes they look pretty but there are better out there for the same (or less) money.

The only thing that changes my opinion is the phone. And only then because of the storage capacity for music. Yes, they are obscenely expensive to buy (stand alone or PAYG) but on a contract, they work out the same as any other high end device if not a little less when you look at the data and wi-fi bundles that get thrown in.

What I don't get is the leaning towards large touchscreen computers such as the iPad. The ergonomics just don't seem to work.

[yorkie_chris]

I dislike their bloatware intensely.

I've got an mp3 player for bike music which doesn't bloat my computer at all (all my music is stored on a NAS type box so itunes would be confused). And this idea about paying for music is mental.
Phones? Meh.
Their computers, dunno, never used one. Seem overpriced for the performance you get.

Some comedian said it best "you people with iPhones, remember you just own one, you didn't invent it."

Originally Posted by L3nny

It may be because the people in the IT industry know exactly what it is that Apple are selling, the billions of normal people don't know what they are buying and just like something trendy and shiny.

Is that a joke?

if apple hadn't brought out the ipod then they would most probably be bust by now

[L3nny]

Originally Posted by lukemillar

Is that a joke?

Kind of, but it's probably true for some Apple owners.

I think they do things pretty well. Everything they make is sort of focused, and that makes no sense but i know what i mean.

The tablet thing looks great, people say laptops are easily portable but as they've grown more equipped they've become just replacement desktops, with cooling systems designed for a desk or a raised stand rather than your lap!

Netbooks are stupid, it's wordpad in book form. It's light but i wouldn't have one in a million years.

Providing the iPad had an indestructible screen and is quick enough to use as a computer, i think i'd have one in place of my laptop. It looks great and it's really light so i think it's a neat idea. (i dunno if it has an internet option without some kinda expensive contract or something)