Dog insurance

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by PoRk ChOp

I may get flamed for the following but I truely believe you should have to have some sort of test to be able to own a dog, upon completion get issued with a dog license.

Not flamed at all, but this is exactly the same as the firearm laws or the 33bhp laws. All it would do is create vast inconvenience for the law abiding while the scumbags would just completely ignore it!

The government that governs best governs least.

[CheGuevara]

Originally Posted by PoRk ChOp

I may get flamed for the following but I truely believe you should have to have some sort of test to be able to own a dog, upon completion get issued with a dog license.

That makes sense to me, particularly if it could be administered by a dog owners association of some sort (ie made up of responsible dog owners) -self-governing is the way to go.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

All it would do is create vast inconvenience for the law abiding

Really??? If someone said to me that I needed to take some sort of test that lasted a few hours or even a day so I could walk my dogs in public I would do it.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

while the scumbags would just completely ignore it!

Totally agree with that comment though.

[gruntygiggles]

This is all coming about due to dog attacks and the desire to cut them down drastically...not a bad thing at all. However.....instead of moaning at dog owners, increasing insurance costs for the responsible while remaining just as incapable of controlling the irresponsible, why not educate people on how NOT to get yourself bitten by a dog.

I made a comment about posties reporting properties where they felt they may get bitten and requiring an external post box....or even that mail for that property has to be collected.

As for children getting bitten by family pets....it's not the dogs fault as most people agree, but a lot could be done educate owners in how unpredicatable the lovable family pet can be.

For the other attacks, many are made up of children who are not under the control of their parents, running up to stroke the cute doggy and getting bitten because of it. That's not necessarily the dog owners fault as very often, you don't see or hear a child running up behind you in a field, so have no warning and a dog that has never bitten before can be startled by the child, feel under threat and bite as a result.

If you don't want to get bitten by a dog......avoid it or completely ignore it. Even looking and holding the gaze of some dogs is enough to cause a reaction....poking, startling, screaming at (like all kids do when excited) etc are all triggers. Parents need to take a little responsibility if they're not going to stop their children running up to strange dogs without the dog owners consent.

[ophic]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Not flamed at all, but this is exactly the same as the firearm laws or the 33bhp laws. All it would do is create vast inconvenience for the law abiding while the scumbags would just completely ignore it!

The government that governs best governs least.

Gotta agree here. If the govt actually bothered to enforce the laws properly, it wouldn't be such an issue, but they only seem to bother with the easy targets, which are most likely the people that weren't causing a problem in the first place.

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[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by PoRk ChOp

Really??? If someone said to me that I needed to take some sort of test that lasted a few hours or even a day so I could walk my dogs in public I would do it.

So you've got to go to a government approved training center which will be at least 50 miles away (look at the recent module 1 riding test debacle...) and pay an exorbitant sum of money... taking a full day off work, or pay extra to have the test on a weekend.

Meanwhile you still get bitten by some pikey mutt on the local council estate!

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

I made a comment about posties reporting properties where they felt they may get bitten and requiring an external post box....or even that mail for that property has to be collected.

Or do what I did after warning the owners of one particular house many times that their dog was attacking me when I tried to deliver to them: Crack it over the nose mid jump with a rolled up magazine

Never came near me again after that...

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by ophic

Gotta agree here. If the govt actually bothered to enforce the laws properly, it wouldn't be such an issue, but they only seem to bother with the easy targets, which are most likely the people that weren't causing a problem in the first place.

Exactly. It's the same with every law these bloodsucking scumbags have passed.

Not that other governments have been entirely innocent of it, with the complete cluster-f***/knee jerk of the Firearms ammendment act 1988.

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by Bluewolf

Bollox. There's always a warning, whether the human realises how the warning manifests itself is the problem.

Not bollox. Especially with breeds like collies. People get bitten and nipped by collies all the time, especially children and there is no warning. The dog is just doing its job and keeping the "flock" from running away, so when a kid runs, the collie nips the ankle.

Now....that is in respect to a nip...not an attack. One of our collies is fearful of strangers. If he's not happy, he doesn't growl, bark, become puffed up and confrontational, he just goes silent and still....that's when I know he's super peeved and about to bite. Hence, he always wears a muzzle and is never allowed to get away with that behaviour, but not everyone can tell that this silent, stiff exhibition is warning of a bite, so the belief is that there is no warning. I think I just didn't make that very clear, my bad.

Totally agree about humans not realising what the warnings are, hence my comment about educating people about how to prevent getting bitten by just understanding what the triggers can be and how to recognise that a dog is unhappy.