Would you advise for or against this...

it's a dog aint it.. Nope..

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by Quiff Wichard

it's a dog aint it.. Nope..

Thanks for the input Stiffy my dear

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

That's two dogs, mature but not old that had never ever shown any aggression or bad behaviour. Somthing in them clicked that day. A baby getting all of the attention, a threat to "their" pack....whatever, the whole family were just shocked at the fact that these dogs were "perfect with kids".

You just never know.

Quite, which is why we're making the decision over Honey over the next few months.
Of course Bob is the harmless doofus of the house, but, hes with a child that came first, and such he knows that Dylan is high up in the pecking order, in fact the dogs are so aware sometimes they take more notice of him ordering them around than me!
We will be taking action and changing things to accomodate a new arrival, as you say you can't predict what the doofus will think to a new addition. Hopefully he'll be the same as having Tibbles arrive after him, but you have to judge every aspect entirely differently.
Honey has to be taken out of the equation, as shes got to the stage where shes an unpredictable old bird that will be even harder to evaluate, even with her track record with children.
A lot of people just don't think how on the ball you have to be with dogs, they just think they'll be fine. Those who who work hard with their dogs can mostly evaluate how they will behave, even down to how their mood is today.
Simplest thing to start off is the use of a baby gate, puts a barrier up straight away and gives the signal, 'this is not your room', unless of course they can polevault over like my two

Its obvious that me and GG are very careful and work with our multipet households, and are very concious of what goes on in doggy brains sometimes, unfortunately most people aren't. I certainly wouldn't go in with the thought of 'oh it'll be fine, they're great with kids' etc. As GG says you just never quite know, no matter how much you seem to know your dog.

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

Quite, which is why we're making the decision over Honey over the next few months.
Of course Bob is the harmless doofus of the house, but, hes with a child that came first, and such he knows that Dylan is high up in the pecking order, in fact the dogs are so aware sometimes they take more notice of him ordering them around than me!
We will be taking action and changing things to accomodate a new arrival, as you say you can't predict what the doofus will think to a new addition. Hopefully he'll be the same as having Tibbles arrive after him, but you have to judge every aspect entirely differently.
Honey has to be taken out of the equation, as shes got to the stage where shes an unpredictable old bird that will be even harder to evaluate, even with her track record with children.
A lot of people just don't think how on the ball you have to be with dogs, they just think they'll be fine. Those who who work hard with their dogs can mostly evaluate how they will behave, even down to how their mood is today.
Simplest thing to start off is the use of a baby gate, puts a barrier up straight away and gives the signal, 'this is not your room', unless of course they can polevault over like my two

Its obvious that me and GG are very careful and work with our multipet households, and are very concious of what goes on in doggy brains sometimes, unfortunately most people aren't. I certainly wouldn't go in with the thought of 'oh it'll be fine, they're great with kids' etc. As GG says you just never quite know, no matter how much you seem to know your dog.

I know Von Teese would have some wise words in this thread as well.

I don't envy you the decision you have coming up Lou, so big hugs to you.
We'll never stop working with our lot. We can't. Hollie is far too unbalanced. I know if she wasn't here that the effect on the other dogs would be huge and very positive, but I took her on to give her a permanent home and she's gone from being a dog that couldn't be around other dogs without wanting to kill them, to a dog that lives with three others. She still has her issues and I know full well that if another dog didn't back off from her growls and curled lip warnings...she would eventually just have them...but because Dan and I know that, we do our best to never let that situation arise.

I said to the OP that with unknown histories, both male, both nuetered late and both fighting/guarding breed backgrounds that if something were to trigger them, they could do a lot of harm to each other or the kids, other people. Didn't tell them not to get the GSD, just that there was more to think about and I'm glad I did as they hadn't fully considered these things. They are good dog handlers though, deal with our four perfectly when they are here and they are doing a great jb with the dog they have.

[ophic]

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

Of course Bob is the harmless doofus of the house

just like my house then

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

very concious of what goes on in doggy brains sometimes, unfortunately most people aren't.

in our case... notalot

[gruntygiggles]

Originally Posted by ophic

in our case... notalot

Haha, this is where I think breed does have an influence...lol.

The collies and the Jack Russell never miss a thing. Alwats switched on, especially the collies.
The Lab/rottie cross, well....she realises things have happened about 5 minutes after the event!

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by ophic

just like my house then


in our case... notalot

I think our two dogs actually might share the same brain cell
Bobs such a soft git, he won't go anywhere near his bed when Tibbles is asleep in it, he just stands and stares whimpering in hope the cat will move!
Hes so stupid that if the babygate has shut slightly he looks at you like an idiot and Honey sighs and rolls her eyes, then puts her paw through the gap and goes to bed..only then does the penny drop for Bob.

You can't advise till you know kids and dogs.neighbors staffy played with my collie stright away an took to a new rescued alsation .