Hampshire Police on Nigh****ch

Originally Posted by Daimo

I will continue to have no baffle, as for me, it makes my riding safer as people can hear you more. But thats common sense, and the UK lacks that trait.

I don't understand how your riding can be safer...

Originally Posted by Daimo

D4MO
B

Instead of

D4
MOB


What exactly is the real issue with it? Even though the spacing is there, just moved 2 accross 2, why is it exactly illegal becuase a rediculas lawbook says so. I

People expect the plates to conform to a pattern. Is D4MO DAMO DAM0? Sounds anal; may be anal; could make a difference in the event of an accident or suspected crime.

Why have plates at all if people are allowed to make them read as they choose?

Originally Posted by Daimo

This is another thing that grinds my gears....

OK, so im running

D4MO
B

Instead of

D4
MOB


What exactly is the real issue with it? Even though the spacing is there, just moved 2 accross 2, why is it exactly illegal becuase a rediculas lawbook says so. I have a legal sized plate also, lettered like the the above, but its still illegal?? I really cannot see the point, but then im a road user, a motorcyclist, i just cause the problem.....

You answer your own question - you are causing the problem - the same as with the exhaust noise and no baffles. If you insist on riding on the road with an illegal number plate and illegal exhaust then you will no doubt be stopped and reported time and time again. The road traffic laws are made for the greater good of all - not just you - quite honestly either comply or form a group of like minded people to lobby Parliament to change these "ridiculous" laws.

The problem is we Huming beans can differentiate the numbers quite easily. Unfortunately ANPR and other automated registration recognition software driven systems (what a mouthful!) can't.

So we have to make it easy for these systems by following the letter of the law.

The powers that be have found an easy way to follow our every move but if we have an "illegal" numberplate we are bucking the system.

Can't have that now can they?

C

Originally Posted by simesb

I don't understand how your riding can be safer...



People expect the plates to conform to a pattern. Is D4MO DAMO DAM0? Sounds anal; may be anal; could make a difference in the event of an accident or suspected crime.

Why have plates at all if people are allowed to make them read as they choose?

Becuase it makes your more audioable to car users. Try riding in a city centre for proof off this. Or even riding down the road. Generally, no baffle = People look in their mirrors to see what the noise is.

Regarding the plate, please look at how letters/numbers are added to reg plates??

It would NEVER read Letter, number, letter, number, letter would it.......

Originally Posted by martin15s

You answer your own question - you are causing the problem - the same as with the exhaust noise and no baffles. If you insist on riding on the road with an illegal number plate and illegal exhaust then you will no doubt be stopped and reported time and time again. The road traffic laws are made for the greater good of all - not just you - quite honestly either comply or form a group of like minded people to lobby Parliament to change these "ridiculous" laws.

No, read it properly please.

I am not complaining about the size of the plate. I know its slightly smaller. And for your info, they said nothing about the plate anyway. I know its slightly smaller, I made this choice, I am not moaning about that.

I am complaining that there is no reason for not allowing the spacing to be moved to make a word. If its D4MO B, or D4 MOB, does not make a diffence. Hell it could be D 4MOB. Why does where the space is located, make any difference, be it on a legally size plate or not. Why is that a law? It makes absolutly no effect. I mean Lozzo's example is taking the **** a little, theres huge spaces everywhere, but mine isn't, but by law, its illegal.

Regarding the baffle, please see above, and we were all parked up, there was no-one on a bike and all bikes were off at all when they rode over.

Made for the greater good of all?

So please do explain, what moving a space does to a reg plate, how it effects any camera recording software, or effects anyone at all?

And how does a noisey exhaust have a greated effect on all, other than making a motorcyclist more audioable to all road users and pedestrians, hence making me safer as rider.

I ran my bandit for over 4 years without a baffle, never been stopped for a noisey exhaust, done over 35,000 miles now. Use it every day, been at police stop checks, the lot, nothing ever been said about no baffle, and its just as noisey as my Benelli.

I've run my Benelli for over a year, without the baffle. Again, been to meets, events, even had a police officer pull me over jsut to find out what the bike is, what the fans were for etc... No-ones ever said a word.

I pull over on a known bike place, having a conversation, with other bikers, none of which are doing wheelies, burnouts, racing, we're just sitting talking about bikes, and the bike racing on TV, when we're given fines.

Indeed, thats keeping road users safe, and not alienating the police officers respect at all. As I said, I had no problem with them issueing the fine, I run the risk of no baffle, then I can't complain at a fine, (i did write this ), but the issue that the fact its even a law, and that they are clamping down on it specifically to stop noisey bikes is simply rediculas. Who's it for, the Jeremy clarksons who moan they can hear the bikes?

Likewise with the plates, everythings the same, but a space is in a different place, how can this be dangerous, illegal, and in any way make a car or motorcycle plate harder to read? Yet in Europe, with much smaller text, well its funny how their cameras can easily read their plates.

Its a revenue making exercise, an un-needed, un-neccesary law which doesn't hinder anyone and only further alienates police officers with petty income making laws. As I said, especially when a dotty old dear pulls out on my old man on teh same day, writes his car off, and show absolutly no interest or help at all.

We had 2 police bikes, a police wagon with police and community support officers. We had more police than we did bikers....

This is my issue. Im not a "I hate the police they are ****" person, hoever in this instance, due to their lack of help, increase in attitude (as i've said, bloke dealing with me was fine, until his superiour started off), for absolutly no reason. They could ahve issued a warning, noted which bikes were there, and aided police/road user bonds by simply stating, "we've seen you once now, if we see you again, we'll fine you"

This is the approach I feel should be taken, and i'd be far more inclined to re-insert the baffle. Next time, i'll fight it back knowing they can just give me a pointless fine.

Originally Posted by Daimo

Becuase it makes your more audioable to car users. Try riding in a city centre for proof off this. Or even riding down the road. Generally, no baffle = People look in their mirrors to see what the noise is.

That is not safety of your riding. Your riding is as good or bad as it was before. What about a deaf blind single mother lesbian from iran? He'd () never hear you...

Originally Posted by Daimo

Regarding the plate, please look at how letters/numbers are added to reg plates??

It would NEVER read Letter, number, letter, number, letter would it.......

No it wouldn't, but there are a huge number of legal British layouts, before you need to identify the car as foreign registered. The letter code, up to three numbers, and three letters was originally introduced as studies showed that people found it easy to remember groups of 3 letters or numbers, but rates decreased for groups of 4 or more. Your number plate reads like a group of 4...

Originally Posted by simesb

That is not safety of your riding. Your riding is as good or bad as it was before. What about a deaf blind single mother lesbian from iran? He'd () never hear you...



No it wouldn't, but there are a huge number of legal British layouts, before you need to identify the car as foreign registered. The letter code, up to three numbers, and three letters was originally introduced as studies showed that people found it easy to remember groups of 3 letters or numbers, but rates decreased for groups of 4 or more. Your number plate reads like a group of 4...

Why would a deaf blind single mother lesbian be driving a car on the UK highways?

You ever been to Europe? There is no country that has the same size lettering and thickness of UK registration plates. Not only that, but most other countries also display their country of origan on the plates themselves.

The amount of letters/numbers in my plate is one of the most common type of private plates on the roads, and any police officer should know this. Its part of their job, same as its mine as a road user to know my traffic laws (which comes well in handy against some people who have no idea, and also infuriating).

Originally Posted by Daimo

Its part of their job, same as its mine as a road user to know my traffic laws (which comes well in handy against some people who have no idea, and also infuriating).

Although you seem to think you are above them...

[yorkie_chris]

There is a definite argument for the police f***ing off and catching some real criminals.

Though, I still can't see the fuss about small plates, why bother? Might as well leave it off and claim it fell off.

I definitely think a noisy pipe makes travelling through traffic and congested areas much safer. There's always some docile tw*t to walk out anyway, but more that don't.
And, if some c**t of a copper gives me a fine for it, it's probably cheaper than fixing all that crash damage that never happened.

Originally Posted by simesb

Although you seem to think you are above them...

Since when? Just becuase of what i've written??

I think you should stop writing statements that have never been written like that. Thats what office b1tching is.