Inline 4s

I have certainly noticed it. But again, probably just different riding styles. I was taught to use engine braking as well as the actual brakes when I did my advanced driving and I just ride similar to that I suppose. Horses for courses.

Well i've now ridden Suzuki's compliment of IL4 middleweights, the Bandit 600 & 650 and the GSXR 600 & 750. All of them whilst competent bikes just didnt put a grin on my face. Yes theyre fast and will rev for ever but I just didnt get it.

I've ridden 400, 450 and 600 singles, 500, 650, 750, 950 and 1200 Twins and the 675 triples and all of them had a certain extra something which I found when riding them.

Maybe I just enjoy tractors!

[fizzwheel]

You only notice the engine braking on the SV, because in compared to the brakes on your CBR the SV brakes are poor. So you use the engine braking as well or instead of to compensate. You ride your CBR a bit more you wont miss the engine braking at all.

The lack of engine braking in comparisoin between a twin and a four is a common observation, just brings me back to my earlier post, you need to modify the way you ride and your approach or style. If you dont you'll never get the best from it whatever bike you are on.

mmm maybe, I was following my mate on a R6 who regulary is in the Top 4 in the Thundersport 500 cup and we were both going for it (as they weren't our bikes).

Or maybe it was just an uninspiring bike.

Btw frame is very stiff and ride is choppy.

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

Nonsense! Clearly weren't in the correct gear either that or you were on an EXTREMELY twisty road.

They are different riding styles and I like them both. The one thing I miss from the SV is the engine braking.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

You only notice the engine braking on the SV, because in compared to the brakes on your CBR the SV brakes are poor. So you use the engine braking as well or instead of to compensate. You ride your CBR a bit more you wont miss the engine braking at all.

The lack of engine braking in comparisoin between a twin and a four is a common observation, just brings me back to my earlier post, you need to modify the way you ride and your approach or style. If you dont you'll never get the best from it whatever bike you are on.

Erm, I get you Fizz but its because of the WAY I ride not because the SV brakes are crap. I have adjusted my riding with the CBR but just liked to roll off on the SV instead of having to brake on the CBR. Like I said, it's cos of the way I was taught.

It's not a flaw with the CBR, its just a difference. There are pros and cons.

Some of the best fun I have ever had on a bike has been on an IL4, but that is only because they have been so much more capable than the twins I have ridden in the past.

Having said that, my next bike will almost certainly be a twin and almost certainly not a sports bike.

It all depends what you want the bike for as much as the bike itself.

[mikerj]

Originally Posted by mikerj

You miss the point, if both were burbling along at 3k then you would need to drop a gear or two to get your 600 up to 8k. It's no longer instant shove.

The SV pulls really hard at 8k! If you were talking 10-11k then it's starting to gasp where the smaller I4s are really starting to come on song.

I prefer the IL4.

Seems much smoother and when I took a pillion, much better for them too.
I noticed the lack of engine braking but then, thats why the new bike has better brakes.

Originally Posted by mikerj

The SV pulls really hard at 8k! If you were talking 10-11k then it's starting to gasp where the smaller I4s are really starting to come on song.

I'm guessing you meant to reply to my post?

I can't say I agree, unfortunately - in my experience 8k had the SV tailing away, the graphs seems to show this too http://image.sportrider.com/f/905452...orque_copy.jpg

My (former) '07 GSX-R600, and my '02 CBR600 would beat the SV clearly at that rev range. That's not even accounting for the fact 8k is mid-range on a GSX-R.

I haven't had the riding experience of most on here, but I have test ridden a few different machines -650 Bandit, R1, 675, Speed Triple, GSXR750, GSXR600, FZ6, FZ1, TL1000R.

I have recently ridden a GSXR600 for a hundred miles or so, and it took me a while to adjust my riding style. I got bored with looking at the clocks thinking that the engine was going to explode, only to be doing 7 or 8k!

After a few miles I got used to where it wanted to be in the rev range, but I did find the high pitched whine very, very tiring. Maybe it was just the tone of the can. At the moment it was enough to put me off buying an IL4 600 next time round.