Tracker - Police won't do anything.

Just a lesson for anyone fitting a tracker, make sure there is some way oflocating the bike at close quarters, such as a remote that can beep the horn or sound a siren. Once you yourself have identified the garage stake it out whilst the police get the warrant.

PS @RH: I certainly knew the police would need a warrant but felt that was such common knowledge it didnt need to be said. Assuming people posting have some intelligence is dangerous I know, but probably equally unfair to assume everybody missed it. Its policies such as not persuing bikes that annoy, an people do genuinely question given police resource levels whether police would react even if you found the exact garage yourself. As somebody said earlier, its insured, so is it the case in some areas that it just wouldnt be seen as important?

[Biker Biggles]

Dont know much about these trackers,but modern gps systems are very accurate.
they use them to position ships to within a few cm.Are the ones fitted as security not so accurate?If they were there would be no doubt which shed it was in.

It all depends on the receiver. I use survey grade gps accurate to 10mm for work, costing around £12k minimum.

A tracker costing £400 would be accurate to a position of metres, with a clear view of sky. (as are tomtom's etc) In a garage you would be lucky to see under 10m precision

The actual issue with the police is that, they don't do police work anymore. The vast majority of them, no not all of them should be very clearly noted...

Its simple they go after the easy jobs to get the figures in so they can they have dectected so many crimes, solved crimes, reassured people ect. They are so busy doing that they simply don't have the time to do actual police work. Mean while all the figures are collected, then the senior mangers have a meeting to talk about the figures, they decide that certian crimes are reclassifed to make it look like say less burglaries are actually happening while real terms they are going up. Then maybe direct a patrol at an area, which then moves the problem onto somewhere else. So the actual crime/issue is never actually resolved. Also several people who are officers, have clearly stated why would I risk my pension? In a case such as this...

So no they won't go looking for the bike, it involves work. If the thief actually does get caught, goes to court...nothing will happen apart from a telling off maybe. So as you can see the system is not set up not to help victims. The police are pacifers to society, much like the reality TV you all watch and dull your mind with.

Originally Posted by metalmonkey

The actual issue with the police is that, they don't do police work anymore. The vast majority of them, no not all of them should be very clearly noted...

Its simple they go after the easy jobs to get the figures in so they can they have dectected so many crimes, solved crimes, reassured people ect. They are so busy doing that they simply don't have the time to do actual police work. Mean while all the figures are collected, then the senior mangers have a meeting to talk about the figures, they decide that certian crimes are reclassifed to make it look like say less burglaries are actually happening while real terms they are going up. Then maybe direct a patrol at an area, which then moves the problem onto somewhere else. So the actual crime/issue is never actually resolved. Also several people who are officers, have clearly stated why would I risk my pension? In a case such as this...

So no they won't go looking for the bike, it involves work. If the thief actually does get caught, goes to court...nothing will happen apart from a telling off maybe. So as you can see the system is not set up not to help victims. The police are pacifers to society, much like the reality TV you all watch and dull your mind with.

Are you a policeman? If your answer is no please state how you are so sure of the above.

Rough night monkey?

Im sure this has been discussed before but what with modern mobiles having gps could you not wire in a pay and go mobile to the bike. If you find its been stollen track the phone on the gps (apps available on most smart phones). Then when stood within a few feet of it all you've got to do is give it a call. A standard phone battery lasts 3 days so you've got that long to find it from the day it was stollen.

Originally Posted by metalmonkey

The actual issue with the police is that, they don't do police work anymore. The vast majority of them, no not all of them should be very clearly noted...

Its simple they go after the easy jobs to get the figures in so they can they have dectected so many crimes, solved crimes, reassured people ect. They are so busy doing that they simply don't have the time to do actual police work. Mean while all the figures are collected, then the senior mangers have a meeting to talk about the figures, they decide that certian crimes are reclassifed to make it look like say less burglaries are actually happening while real terms they are going up. Then maybe direct a patrol at an area, which then moves the problem onto somewhere else. So the actual crime/issue is never actually resolved. Also several people who are officers, have clearly stated why would I risk my pension? In a case such as this...

So no they won't go looking for the bike, it involves work. If the thief actually does get caught, goes to court...nothing will happen apart from a telling off maybe. So as you can see the system is not set up not to help victims. The police are pacifers to society, much like the reality TV you all watch and dull your mind with.

I've highlighted a couple of points above: -

Perhaps you could define POLICE WORK & specfically what it is that the Police no longer do.

Police officers hold the office of Constable & as such it is the responsibility of the individual concerned when a decision is made to arrest or swear out a warrant. An officer cannot be ORDERED to do such an act. In relation to the OP, if the EXACT garage cannot be identified it is highly unlikely that a Magistrate would authorise a warrant to force entry to numerous garages.

If say 10 out of the 20 or so garages had to be forced open before the bike was recovered at the 11th garage, then the 10 previous owners have a legitimate claim for a new/repaired garage door at the expense of the Police. At say an average £400.00 for each garage that's £4000.00 your local force has just spent, which local Police department loses that from their budget. That is money that cannot be recovered from any suspect.

What I would say to those that regularly post up on the negative side of Policing - what do you know about the subject?????. If you are so hacked off about Police responses etc & are full of ideas as to how it should be done then why not give up some your time & become a SPECIAL CONSTABLE.

This would boost officer numbers & allow the response you want to see take place, it would give you a greater understanding of what it is that gets done & why it gets done that way, ALSO as you yourself would now be held fully accountable for your actions and subject to Police regulations....................................... .














sits back & waits for the braying mob with pitchforks to arrive.

[NTECUK]

Cheaper than the mobile option .
Big chain and a ground anchor.

Originally Posted by NTECUK

Cheaper than the mobile option .
Big chain and a ground anchor.

Thats my point, I dont think the ancor option is cheaper. Pay and go mobile is what £30, you've then just go to buy the tracker app and do a bit of wiring. Hardest part would maybe making certain the phone would remain 100%dry.

Hardest part would maybe making certain the phone would remain 100%dry.

just get a small drinks bottle then make a hole in the top for wires. Would need to be a loud phone. Heat up the bottle and it would shrink around the phone too. Or just use cling film although i think it would muffle the sound more