Public Pay to be brought in line with Private

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul

the CONservatives wont be happy till the less well off are paying more tax and earning/paid less money and the top 5% who are paying to much tax and cant afford to heat there swimming pools will get there 50%tax reduced to 40% on earnings over 150k or so

Yeah! They're theiving 'stards those tax avoiding Tories - like this piece of filth:



Oh dear. Ken - who famously said everyone else should pay oodles of tax - dodges paying too much himself.

You were saying?

I'm sorry I started looking at this thread. The rabid nature of some these posts is quite startling.

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The BEEB* quote public pay being more than private:
London - 0.5%
Rest of England - 8%
Wales - 18%
* figures courtesy of MCN?

[Bri w]

The public 'v' private pay scales thing is just a load of rowlocks. Public sector engineers in the industry I work in currently get paid more than the guys that work for us... its marginal but... A few years ago it was the other way around, and a few years before that it was the other way around again.

There will be a fortune spent on benchmarking just to justify a policy rather than a genuine fact.

Regional differences... why bu99er about with something that has worked fine for xx years? Is the country that broke that we have to stoop to taking more money off 95% of public sector workers... sounds a bit like Greece to me, just tarted up with a pretty ribbon and flowers.

Taxing the rich at 50% = penalise those that have worked their ar5e off for donkey's years to be succesful. Ask anyone who's started a business how many hours they put in at the office, and how many afterwards at home.

Yeah the 50% tax types pay MOST of the tax in this country. But we rarely hear about that. If it was reduced a bit it may encourage them to grow a little more and pay MORE tax. I think it'll be quite an interesting budget and one that will probably reveal the tories true colours

I won't be suprised if they tax fuel 5p or maybe more. Asda near me has gone up 3p in 3 weeks in the run up to it and diesel is now 142p a litre.
Booze has to go up as do fags cos having fun needs taxing more! especially as everyone apparently drinks a bottle of wine a day

Then of course they need to get stamp duty sorted for the rich so they actually have to pay castle tax. I don't expect any public sector pay rises either, this will probably be the proper belt tightener of a budget.

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by ejohnh

I'm sorry I started looking at this thread, I wanted to read other people expressing an identical opinion to my own.

And if that were done forcefully would that be 'rabid' - or is that reserved solely for people who hold differing opinions to yours?

I can't help but wonder.

ffs "Sid", go get yourself a bunk up or something and back off.

Originally Posted by Tommy H

I don't understand the problem with that Paul. People seem to forget that tax is a percentage, so If you are earning over £150k you are already paying well in excess of what the rest of us are paying. Also if you are in a job paying in excess of £150k you are probably in a job that is of significant benefit to the economy on other ways (and we're talking about people who are 'earning' here, not just rich due to their family).

If I got promoted to be MD of a company, surely I am contributing to the economy in other ways than just my income tax.... By the success of my company etc.

so what you are saying all the people below you,the working class who do all the work arnt a benefit to the economy,wouldnt it be fairer to cut tax or increase allowance at the bottom of the pay scale which would then help everone not just the very well off,now if ive got the detail correct i pay 20% tax on every thing over 7.5k to 35k plus 12% NI that =32p in the pound, and on earning over 150k 50% +2%NI.i know we all want to pay as little tax as possible but with the finances of the country as they are,and not helped by the banker types on there multi million pound saleries who almost bankrupted the country for a quike profit then it would seem to me the money has to come from somewhere,and no doubt you will have an accountant doing you tax aviodance and actually be paying less tax then me in anycase

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by suzukigt380paul

so what you are saying all the people below you,the working class who do all the work arnt a benefit to the economy,wouldnt it be fairer to cut tax or increase allowance at the bottom of the pay scale which would then help everone not just the very well off,now if ive got the detail correct i pay 20% tax on every thing over 7.5k to 35k plus 12% NI that =32p in the pound, and on earning over 150k 50% +2%NI.i know we all want to pay as little tax as possible but with the finances of the country as they are,and not helped by the banker types on there multi million pound saleries who almost bankrupted the country for a quike profit then it would seem to me the money has to come from somewhere,and no doubt you will have an accountant doing you tax aviodance and actually be paying less tax then me in anycase

No, but someone who's gone from starting a company to employing people is more of a benefit than someone at the bottom.

Fair enough the financial sector seems to be the turd in that particular pool but otherwise...

So look at it another way, £150k+ you can afford a decent accountant to get round the ruinous 50% tax rate. So get rid of it in favour of a fair tax, less people dodge it, govt actually collects more.


I don't see why it is fair to punish success.

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I don't see why it is fair to punish success.

True, but don't forget that some of the successful ones are bankers who caused a lot of this mess in the first place.