Un-restrcited bike..

Aye, had to pay extra for my insurance cos I wanted to stick extra bits on. After I had explained what a 'tail tidy' and 'belly pan' (it's true) was to the girl at Bennets, she scurried off and returned with a higher quote than their online one... ah well, she sounded nice

Originally Posted by lynw

PS Dr Rich, talk to Moriarty about insurance and his can. They put a Renegade on instead of an original Suzuki one because its cheaper. Which kind of underlines what insurers really think of mods vs oem parts. :P

Hilarious! Just goes to show.

Originally Posted by lynw

But if its any consolation I loathe people who tailgate.

Me too - In the cage I will slow down if they are hard on my tail - b*stards. I dont often have this problem on the bike and tend to stay in the left lane if its clear whatever I am driving - its the safe option.

I have a restricted SV as well, and I'm contemplating taking the kit off early. In my view they are primarily for 17 yr olds who have just passed their test and have no experience on the road. Where as people can have over 3 years road experience and still be forced to have the 33bhp limit.

I have problems overtaking like Abyss said, but more so on country lanes, the damn thing hardly moves from 80+ I feel it's almost more dangerous without having the power to get you out of bad situations. I wouldn't ride any faster, than I already do, but just progress to the speeds where im more comfertable in a shorter amount of time. Also why is it this rule is not imposed on car drivers?....they can do a lot more damage then a little bike can!

Originally Posted by imaleon

I have problems overtaking like Abyss said, but more so on country lanes, the damn thing hardly moves from 80+ I feel it's almost more dangerous without having the power to get you out of bad situations. I wouldn't ride any faster, than I already do, but just progress to the speeds where im more comfertable in a shorter amount of time. Also why is it this rule is not imposed on car drivers?....they can do a lot more damage then a little bike can!

Sorry, but if 3 years of road "experience" means you are getting yourself into situations you need the acceleration it hasnt really taught you that much has it? And I would suggest you should be taking the time while restricted to perfect NOT getting yourself into these situations.

And as for the "I wouldnt ride faster" - sorry but thats absolute crap. Well intentioned as you may be, you will ride faster if you can. If you think 80+ isnt enough then its pretty obvious you will.

Funnily enough, most other people have managed restricted so why cant you? In case you hadnt realised 80+ is plenty above the speed limit to lose your licence. But I guess you really dont value it highly enough to risk losing it so soon.

Or how would you feel if you get hit by someone whos uninsured? I doubt you would like that very much, so why should you put others at risk by doing the same? End of the day, if you ride unlicenced and uninsured then dont complain if you get hit by someone who equally isnt insured and drives off accordingly to avoid that being discovered.

Getting myself into dangerous situations...I never said I did! I merely acknoledged that greater power would be helpful. Also I ride 100 on most roads anyway, it just takes ages to accelerate beyond 80! When I am driving, I constantly do over 100 on dual carriageways and motorways, and guess what....no points!

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Originally Posted by imaleon

I have problems overtaking like Abyss said, but more so on country lanes, the damn thing hardly moves from 80+ I feel it's almost more dangerous without having the power to get you out of bad situations.

80 mph on a country lane. Surprised you stay in the seat of your SV

Seriously don't you think its much better to not put yourself into a dangerou situation in the first place. Then maybe just maybe you'd find that the you woulnt be lacking in power to accelerate away from the hazard. Its certainly a technique to avoid danger but it can also get you into danger quickly to IMHO.

I dont know how long you've been riding, but wouldnt it be better to ride the limit of the machine ? Rather than just de-restricting it before your time is up.

Personally I dont care what you do. But I dont like the idea of riding with people who dont have a license for their bike on a rideout.

How long till your restriction is up ?

Originally Posted by lynw

Sorry, but if 3 years of road "experience" means you are getting yourself into situations you need the acceleration it hasnt really taught you that much has it? And I would suggest you should be taking the time while restricted to perfect NOT getting yourself into these situations.

Sorry, I don't agree. I can only imagine you haven't experienced situations where it is desirable. A bikes performance should be vastly superior to the cars around you in the same way a fighter jet can **** all over an airliner. A common commuter trap is a tailgater behind and a car crossing into your lane in front. Do want to heave the brakes on and get rammed by the following car or move away from the whole situation under your control? You make your decisions and I'll make mine but don't assume your experience gives the best answer and I'll try not to assume mine does either!

I find in normal riding (and car driving) its the brakes, slacking off, repositioning and most of all some sixth sense (anticipation) that gets me out of bad situations should they arise.

Power is needed when Ive put MYSELF at risk.

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Originally Posted by arenalife

A common commuter trap is a tailgater behind and a car crossing into your lane in front. Do want to heave the brakes on and get rammed by the following car or move away from the whole situation under your control?

Two words.

"Escape route"

Always always have an escape route in mind. Be that move out to the right or even to the left. Observation and awareness is whats required here. Not more power.

If your finding tailgaters that much of a problem theres other things you can do. Like slow down and not sit in the outside or middle lanes of the motorway. With some skill and forward observation you can still IMHO make progress. If you are finding that at 80mph it doesnt have much puff. Then why not sit at 70mph on the motorway. That way you'll still have a bit more go to get past other vehicles. Just a thought.

I will agree thought that sometimes its handy to be able to give it the beans to make room for yourself. I just don't see that its enough justification to de-restrict your bike.

Before you ask I spent 10 months riding 125cc bike that wouldnt do more than 65mph I do know exactly what you're talking about.