Never Mind the Porlocks - Ride Out, 31st March 2007

Originally Posted by hovi5

louder than mine?

Originally Posted by Viper

Yep I think it is, sorry

it wont be.....................

i will take the can OFF if i have to

so...........how do i get louder than a straight through race can

Come on guys, if your going to get into a pi55ing completition we need more descriptive language. "Mine's so loud that Baph will think there's a avalanche on his mountain retreat".

its not I've got a standard can.

Count me in for this one

[mattSV]

Originally Posted by hovi5

it wont be.....................

i will take the can OFF if i have to

so...........how do i get louder than a straight through race can

Get a SV1000 with twin 60mm outlet cans

[Viney]

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I dont think. I know my can is loudest... Anna's is F**T in a biscuit tin comapred to mine.

You guys just havent heard it for a while. I think I might have to remind you

Do i have to comae and show whos cans are the loudest

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Viney

Do i have to comae and show whos cans are the loudest

I think you might. You looooovee that bit of road anyway, Also this time you might actually press the right button on your camera to

Originally Posted by Viney

Do i have to come and show whos cans are the loudest

you have 2?................does that mean they are twice as loud?

650 or 1000?

Originally Posted by hovi5

you have 2?................does that mean they are twice as loud?

650 or 1000?

just seen the piccy

what is the benifit of the 2 cans?

[Viney]

Originally Posted by hovi5

just seen the piccy

what is the benifit of the 2 cans?

None. Its mainly for cosmetic. however at the time they gave a slight advantage in power over a single can, but at a different part of the rev range.

I might come to this, really not sure, depends on a few things. i Know that BBC is off to see her brother possibly that weekend. We'll see. However i will need floor space

Pre-Planning Prevents Poor Performance.

Last year I made the mistake of calling for a ride leader (Point) and Tail End Charlie (TEC) on the day, thanks to Beenz for steeping up to the plate and doing most, but I think I was a little unfair.

I am calling for volunteers.

Before you stick your hand up, please read on so that you understand what all the jobs involve.

The method is known as Second Person Drop-off or Drop off. (plagiarised from another site, tweaked to suit).

The Point.

Knows the route well,
Makes him (her) self known to the whole group.
Rides within the law all times,
At junctions (where the route is not straight on) indicates by pointing to the kerb the approximate location for number two (The Marker) to stop, this should be a safe place that can be seen by the following riders.
Should keep at least two riders in rear vision at all times, if you don’t you risk running out of markers forcing you to stop.

The Marker (you have already volunteered for this job)

Anyone can be Marker. The person immediately behind Point automatically becomes “The Marker”, if you are in this position you must not fail to do this job. Do not pass Point. When Point indicates a marking position you must stop in a safe place, take note the direction that Point has taken and pass that information to all following riders, you must stay at your post until TEC approaches and indicates for you to continue. (This could be a very long wait, do not think that you’ve missed TEC). TEC may temporarily pass you, but you must overtake TEC as soon a safe to do so, TEC will create an opportunity.

Tail End Charlie (TEC).

TEC is possibly the harder job, there is always a strong temptation to nail it in order to keep up, this must be resisted, there will be no-one following you to call for help and get you out of a ditch.

TEC knows the route well,
Makes him (her) self known to the whole group.
is always in last place,
if you (TEC) see a stationary rider you must stop to check on them.
you must pick up Markers.


The Peloton

The peloton is made up of all the riders between Point and TEC. No-one passes Point and TEC will not pass you. Peloton riders have a responsibility to ride safely. Your actions or inactions should not put another rider in danger. Do not undertake, other riders will not be expecting it, and maintain your distances. Within the peloton you may ride as slow or a fast as you like within the strictures already outlined. It is not unusual for the faster riders to act as Markers early on in the route, once picked up work their way through the peloton to act as Marker again. This is acceptable. If you are going to leave to group for any reason you should let Point, TEC or the Ride Leader know your intent.


Ride Leader (often the person who has planned the route.) Jabba & I have shared this role previously.

Will know the route (but perhaps not very well),
Identified him (her) self to the whole group.
Arrange for Point and TEC to be identified.
Make a count of all riders in the group.
Give the start up briefing, safety notes etc.
Identify meet up points.
Call the end of comfort breaks etc.
Arrange a search for missing riders from pre-determined stops.
May take Point but never TEC
Ensure everyone gets home safely (perhaps not always possible with riders coming from a wide geography).

I am thus looking for volunteers to share the Point and TEC jobs

Tiverton Parkway to Dunster,
Dunster to Woolacombe
Woolacombe to Crediton
Crediton to Tiverton Parkway