How does your restricted 33bhp pointy SV650 feel?

[Rich]

Uberloin i think its time you started to look at the good points of a restricted SV and not the bad. I'm getting tired of hearing you tell us that how boring and slow the SV is compared to your RS50. If thats all you have got to compare it to then its not much of a comparison. I'm sorry to sound cruel but being 18 myself, i think myself lucky to have a chance to own such a great bike at a young age restricted or otherwise. Alot or kids our age interested motorcycles simple can't afford bikes. Instead of moaning about its lack of puff past 7000rpm change down a gear and just get on with learning how to master the art of riding!!! Amen!!

yeha i agree to some extent - i am consciously aware that riding a bike screws my mum up, but then you doin't overcome a fear if you don't face up to it. but i guess if im not having fun on my bike, i can't justify riding it. except it can be kinda practical.

if you make your own luck which is working very hard to buy your bike and insurance all by yourself then i guess i am "lucky". - ergo it isn't coincidence or 'good fortune' that got me the bike. it was hard work. the point im making is that the law is not saving me from anything - i wouldn't be so irresponsible as to relinquish such personal responsibility. anyhow, each to their own. keep your bike restricted if you think you'll ride irresponsbly with full power. i know i canr ide responsibly with full power because my first 100 miles on my sv were with it like that and i rode pretty gently really,e xcelpt i enjoyed the upper range of overtaking grunt. i would trust no other 17 year old i know with that capability, i don't know many people as boring as me when it comes to not taking advantage of the opportunity to indulge in danger simply because it's there. i don't consider it self-discipline, it just feels uncomfy going super fast - i just LLOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEE acceleration up to say 65mph :-p

[Rich]

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

I've lost 1 good friend in a bike accident, another forum member who I had ridden with died last year in a bike accident. One of my best friends was knocked over by a car driver who was 3 times over the drink drive limit last year. YOU might not care if you die or not, but goddamit man the people you leave behind will. Spare them a thought.

Speaking so much sense, try listening for once. I'm learning to and it does work!

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Uberloinvongenchler

but i guess if im not having fun on my bike, i can't justify riding it. except it can be kinda practical.

You can have fun with what you've got now, learn to ride it better, be faster in a corner, brake a little later, concentrate on finding the perfect line through your favourite set of corners. I regularly hop back onto an SV from my GSXR, the SV still leaves me grining. Its a big step down from 144bhp back to 70bhp, yet I still find it satisfying to ride, for the reasons above.

You can have fun on any bike. I used to love my 125, its all about your mindset and your approach.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

You can have fun with what you've got now, learn to ride it better, be faster in a corner, brake a little later, concentrate on finding the perfect line through your favourite set of corners. I regularly hop back onto an SV from my GSXR, the SV still leaves me grining. Its a big step down from 144bhp back to 70bhp, yet I still find it satisfying to ride, for the reasons above.

You can have fun on any bike. I used to love my 125, its all about your mindset and your approach.

you're absolutely right, being depressed sucks.

but corners are the most dangerous aspect. if you put a knee down on just about any of the corners i know round here (and for the most part even close) you'd be going about 3 times too fast. indulging in cornering where i am is more of a discipline -you have to try not to lean too much and brake too late.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Uberloinvongenchler

but corners are the most dangerous aspect. if you put a knee down on just about any of the corners i know round here (and for the most part even close) you'd be going about 3 times too fast. indulging in cornering where i am is more of a discipline -you have to try not to lean too much and brake too late.

But corners, lead to the most fun and also the most satisfaction, nothing beats braking, changing down, tipping in, hitting the apex on the pefect line, winding on the throttle ( or pining it wide open ) and firing out of the turn, only to do it all again at the next corner, You dont need a full power bike to get enjoyment from that. You can do that on any bike. Corning is a discipline and one that you'll over time master. You dont need to get your knee down to go fast round a corner, corner entry speed, road position, correct gear and throttle control all make you fast waving your knee around in the air and hanging off like a monkey just distract you. Yes its a skill but not one you need for road riding IMHO. Watch the riders at the TT, their sliders skim the tarmac, if at all, yet they are some of the best road riders in the world.

I've been riding for 3 years I've done nearly 30,000 miles I still. cant get my knee down, I'd love to, but theres more to riding than being able to do it.

If your talking about going into corners 3 times to fast then your riding state of mind is all wrong IMHO. Again if you wanna push like that go and work hard, save your money and go and do a track day where you can really have some fun. People get their kicks from different aspects of riding. Theres loads of stuff you can do. Its not all about riding flat out all the time.

what i meant was, i do go round corners pretty fast, and im no where near geting a knee down on tight bends and i woudnt want to. sometimes u ahve to swing out of the way for big coaches taking up half the other side of the road

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by Uberloinvongenchler

what i meant was, i do go round corners pretty fast, and im no where near geting a knee down on tight bends and i woudnt want to. sometimes u ahve to swing out of the way for big coaches taking up half the other side of the road

Yep you do. Again brings me back to road positioning, get it right and you'll still be able to have fun even with leaving yourself room for traffic coming the other way knicking your space.

Getting back to my original post Interesting to see where this has wandered to... I rode my gf's bike again yesterday and found that the hesitation at 7k revs happens more when the bike isn't warmed up - which makes sense. Its still just noticable in 4th-6th when you've been thrashing the bike *ahem* for a few miles, but nothing to be alarmed at.

All in all the bike seems pretty fun restricted. It never scares you and if you change gear often and keep the revs between about 3.5-6.5k you have all the power you need to overtake and accelerate. Albeit gracefully rather than purposefully. Hehe.

The SV rocks. The forks are a bit poop compared the ZX-6R, but there's something about vee-twins which makes me forgive so much. I'd happily trade the ZX6R in for a SV1000. Hehe. That's actually saying a lot, because the ZX6 is the first bike I've had in 11 years which I can't fault on anything at all (apart from the flaky paint on the wheels, grr).

Thanks for the input again folks! Thought it would be good to give some feedback of my own, having ridden the bike again.

Originally Posted by Catflavor

Getting back to my original post Interesting to see where this has wandered to... I rode my gf's bike again yesterday and found that the hesitation at 7k revs happens more when the bike isn't warmed up - which makes sense. Its still just noticable in 4th-6th when you've been thrashing the bike *ahem* for a few miles, but nothing to be alarmed at.

All in all the bike seems pretty fun restricted. It never scares you and if you change gear often and keep the revs between about 3.5-6.5k you have all the power you need to overtake and accelerate. Albeit gracefully rather than purposefully. Hehe.

The SV rocks. The forks are a bit poop compared the ZX-6R, but there's something about vee-twins which makes me forgive so much. I'd happily trade the ZX6R in for a SV1000. Hehe. That's actually saying a lot, because the ZX6 is the first bike I've had in 11 years which I can't fault on anything at all (apart from the flaky paint on the wheels, grr).

Thanks for the input again folks! Thought it would be good to give some feedback of my own, having ridden the bike again.

well you're right about keeping the revs below 7k, but i find this very restrictive and you have to change gear a lot more to make adequate progress.

with regards to the overtaking, i am shocked at how inadequate a 33bhp bike is at facilitating this. It's all very well pulling off clever overtaking maneuvres in an endeavor to compensate, but this is not trouble-free biking.

I know it was comparatively a lot slower, but when riding a two stroke bike that you could obviously rev out, at least given the lack of outright acceleration, your reward was a nice dollop of oomph. with the restricted bike it's like building up to something and then nothnig happens -flat. (not really a surprise).

So, no it isn't really *that* much fun in my opinion, but maybe im not being daring enough. - i really find the suspension "soppy" too.

Still a solid workhorse. :-p

Also, I went to overtake a renault clio 1.4 and i only just managed to pass it somehow, and that was coming out of a 30 mph bend. - most embarassing and nearly resulted in an accident (i think it was being driven by some chav and loaded with his mates) who thought it would be funny to see what happened if i didn't get passed before the oncoming white van hit me. :s

Still restricted though so all you legal minds may rest at ease