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Old 17-03-07, 11:58 AM   #41
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The S&Ws arnt a good model really because the main welshy area and one of the larger english bits are very close, about 20 mins from each other over the severn bridge. So the Bristol centric and cardiff centric folks spend a lot of their time together. Its the cornish and people from down Grinch and Scoobs' way who are a bit polarised, but then they have their own meets, Poole Quay etc and sometimes we go there. For us it seems to work, but I appreciate the geographics probably dont elsewhere. But it would sad for us say to split and I dont think/hope we never will.

On the other issue, I can appreciate that sometimes the fine balancing act keeping this place under control goes a little of course.

But down to the most important thing about this post

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Heh heh - bloke or bird, it rarely matters -
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Old 17-03-07, 01:33 PM   #42
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With regard to the balancing act of Moderating, and to perhaps give a measure of explaination to Stuartyboy, I gather there was a difference to the two threads to which he is refering.

Whilst 'Dirty Leathers' did contain a certain amount of innuendo, the title of your [Stuartyboy] thread was a tad more explicit. True, not in a blatently obvious sense, but certainly in a manner that a child's enquiring mind would have little difficulty in spotting.

True, a very minor difference - but in this case it was perhaps enough to be cause for moderation.

Beyond that - how the moderation was carried out is an issue for the moderator in question. A grienvance that should perhaps have been better conducted via PM - after all, if you have a problem with the site, Pm the section's Mod...

... but beyond that if you have a problem with a Mod, PM Admin. There is a 'level higher' that could have been utilised. Just food for thought.


As for the Picts - if I recall correctly even they were originally of Irish extraction. The final stronghold of the ancient Britons was mid/North wales. South Wales and Cornwall being subjected to more of a Saxon mix later on.

But let's face it - at the end of the day...




... we all hate the French! (So sock it to em in the Rugby eh!)

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Old 17-03-07, 01:41 PM   #43
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But let's face it - at the end of the day...




... we all hate the French!
Yeah, I'l drink to that!
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Old 17-03-07, 01:47 PM   #44
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But let's face it - at the end of the day...




... we all hate the French! (So sock it to em in the Rugby eh!)
*cough* William the Conqueror. *cough*
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Old 17-03-07, 02:02 PM   #45
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*cough* William the Conqueror. *cough*
He got lucky. But also brought with him an air of superiority that carried through to even his soldiers, meaning that the Normans had little impact on the greater population in a genetic sense. Nobility, yes to an extent, but the vast majority of the population is still far closer to their Nordic ancestors than to the French.

It was a similar story when the Romans invaded - they set themselves apart so whilst aspects of their lifestyle were adopted, they had little impact regarding a genetic legacy.

This is one of the reason I find this subject interesting - as more often than not, within the British Isles, national identity stems more from rule of propoganda than from genetic heritage. Whereas if you look to other areas of Europe, the Middle and Far East and the Slavic states it is often the other way round.
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Old 17-03-07, 02:33 PM   #46
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Is anyone else having their posts deleted without any explanation?
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within the British Isles, national identity stems more from rule of propoganda than from genetic heritage.
Now that's what I call thread creep!
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Old 17-03-07, 06:15 PM   #47
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the title of your [Stuartyboy] thread was a tad more explicit. True, not in a blatently obvious sense, but certainly in a manner that a child's enquiring mind would have little difficulty in spotting.
Er...no it wasn't...It wasn't explicit at all so can we please stop blowing it out of proportion.

As for kids spotting stuff - there are hundreds of posts on here (and I'm guilty too) about "riding", "getting a good ride", riding positions that any kid could have little difficulty spotting. These should all be deleted if the same rules were being applied.

Mark my words they'll be banning feck next!

I thought we were bikers - not some branch of the WI or Sunday School group. If I wanted to subscribe to cbeebies then I would have.

Kitkat - I said right from the start I never got any warning, reply or explanation.

K - in answer to the region thing - it was added because it was the first thing I noticed when it was upgraded. I was sure that it just said clubs/get togethers before but if I'm wrong then sorry.

Ever since the upgrade the forum seems to have went PC mad. I always write the same drivel and the nature of my posts has never changed - double entendre or otherwise. I am a gregarious person but I'm not a trouble maker. I make my point and I'm happy to back it up or back down. I was very surprised when my post was deleted hence my reaction.

As for removing my post - I maintain it was extremely petty. The post itself was developing into a good conversation about a ducati. I just used my used own way of expressing how fantastic the bike was. A little common sense by tyhe mod and this could have been avoided.

As for the U rating helping people read the forum at work....I'm puzzled. I work in IT and I write stuff for some big companies. I've developed software projects in conjuction with the police force so I know a bit about how the work based screening works. Case in point being the BBC - there's sections on dogging, porn and even advice on how to perform anal sex properly. I just don't get why the site would be banned from big organisations. I've been onsite at some very uppity companies and it gets through no problems..

As for children - I have big issues with this. Kids aren't old enough to ride bikes and they certainly shouldn't be reading stuff about riders tanking on at 140mph on public roads, wheelying, stoppying etc. Imagine someone's kid at school their mates "my dad was on this website and he does 140mph on the road then went "riding" phnarr phnarr with a girl on the site". mate tells his mum, his mum tells her mates, mates dob in wee boy to teacher...social work calls round etc etc. Trust me things like this have happened before!

If the mods are worried about kids getting on here then stick a big sign on the front saying "Advisory content - parental consent" or more simply - turn off public viewing.

I seem to have sparked a debate - rightly or wrongly. I've been extremely stressed and touchy recently because of my Dad's illness but at the end of the day I'm here for bike chat and banter with the good mates i've met.

Hopefully we can put this to rest and move on in good spirits.

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Old 17-03-07, 06:27 PM   #48
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I'm here for bike chat and banter with the good mates i've met.

Hopefully we can put this to rest and move on in good spirits.
hear hear!
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Old 17-03-07, 06:35 PM   #49
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As for the Picts - if I recall correctly even they were originally of Irish extraction.

But let's face it - at the end of the day...

... we all hate the French!
There are those historians who claim the Picts were of Irish decent, but this is generally regarded now as a more of a heresy orginating from the Roman invasion. Others claim Gaullish or Iberian decendancy, but most historians simply say the origin is "unknown" because its too far back in time to prove anything conclusively. European in orgin is that most argued however. What is not really doubted is that they were the earliest known inhabitants of Scotland, although being tribal in nature they weren't really and wouldn't have classified themselves as one and the same race.

The history channels brief description..
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/s...php?word=Picts

And quite interesting for anyone who wants a cronological history in one page....
http://www.gwp.enta.net/scothist.htm

We don't all hate the French, Auld Alliance and all that, in fact I married one!

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Old 17-03-07, 06:35 PM   #50
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I always write the same drivel
Hear hear!












Just kidding Stuart
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