Winter riding...

Originally Posted by sarah

You can normally buy the visor with the pinlock pins already in place and all you have to do is mount the insert (which is very easy). If you get another visor you can remove the insert and put it in the new visor.

Doesn't allow any air in.

Sarah's right there ... you can buy Shoei visors with the pinlock system already in it ... comes with an insert which is a doddle to pop in.

And no wind getting thru either

Have to say that after riding around on my DAS wearing a Nitro lid with visor cracked open, I made a beeline for the Shoei's as soon as I passed my test, because I really rate the pinlock system.

[northwind]

Some arais come with the pinlock mountings too, my Astro R did. I'm not convinced they do anything better than the fog cities I have in my other visor tbh, other than the transferability. But they're both good products. Scorpion, on the other hand, have mistproof visors- that's the snowmobile legacy for you. I gather you can get heated visors to fit the scorpions too.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by northwind

Some arais come with the pinlock mountings too, my Astro R did.

As did my Corsair RX7

I prefer the pinlock to the fogcity, precisly because you can remove it and ditch it for a new pinlock if it gets scratched etc etc.

Hmm OK I stand majorly corrected - sorry! I think I've minunderstood how the pinlock system works - my apologies!

How does it compare to one of those fog deflector mask thinggies ('tis what I've used in the past... eg: http://www.respro.com/racing.php - Respro Foggy Mask)

IMHO the foggy has been fantastic - if you get it a bit low in the helmet it can be hard to breath, and if you sneeze it's not very tasy Has any one ever used both or had experience of both?

[fizzwheel]

I use both, I've got a pinlock insert on my clear visor which stops the visor fogging and I've got a Foggy respro mask mounted on the chin piece on my lid so that the guard directs my breath away from my glasses and I dont fog those up either.

The foggy I find also keeps my face warmer on cold days to.