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yorkie_chris · 01-10-07, 10:13 AM

I need some mirrors to use, only got one and it won't stay where I put it, after a mile I've got a view of my stomach lol
Wish I had £85 to spend on training

Stu · 01-10-07, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I need some mirrors to use, only got one and it won't stay where I put it, after a mile I've got a view of my stomach lol
Wish I had £85 to spend on training

Cheaper for 25 & under

TEC · 01-10-07, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

The lead would be the pupil, so hardly fair to berate IAM because a new pupil doesn't know what he's doing.

Not berating IAM but that guys observer/instructor. I wasn't the only bike between him and his pupil

I suspect this wasn't the start of a ride but half way through being as they had pulled up just north of A505/A1198 roundabout

Stu · 01-10-07, 04:03 PM

OK yes it's a bit of a poor show, the observer should be 'protecting' the pupil and be able to keep up with him. But sounds like he took the option of pulling over & waiting for the pupil to return to him?

TEC · 01-10-07, 05:51 PM

They were still following (group of about six bikes) but were a long way back, probably keeping to the speed limit through the village

02-10-07, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TEC

They were still following (group of about six bikes) but were a long way back, probably keeping to the speed limit through the village

How do you know they were IAM?

yorkie_chris · 02-10-07, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

the observer should be 'protecting' the pupil

To be fair if you're doing advanced training then you shouldn't need any protecting, I don't have an instructor watching my back on the commute so having one on training would be counterproductive IMO

Chris

02-10-07, 08:45 PM

The observer guy doesn't seem to be there to protect you in the way a DAS instructor does. Mainly there to watch what you are doing then tell you it's all wrong!!

02-10-07, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackie_Black

The observer guy doesn't seem to be there to protect you in the way a DAS instructor does. Mainly there to watch what you are doing then tell you it's all wrong!!

Yep...they are purely there to observe you; then they advise you how to improve when they "de-brief" you (oeerr!) every-so often.

02-10-07, 09:33 PM

Another course to go on is The Edge which is run by most local councils.Its only a one day affair but the observer is a member of the local constabulary.Probably one of the best riders of a motorcycle.I went on one about 3-4years ago which I found helpful to the extent that it was the first critique of my riding since passing my test in 1974 and have riden continuously since.Most insurance companies give a discount for this as well.
As with all training its only any use if you follow the teachings everyday and I would agree with others on here that too much training makes some people think they are riding gods and invincible.With my advancing years and my desire to get even older, I naturally take less heroic chances than I did when I was a teenager.

01-10-07, 10:13 AM	#41
yorkie_chris Noisy Git Mega Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Halifax/Leeds Posts: 26,645	Re: IAM I need some mirrors to use, only got one and it won't stay where I put it, after a mile I've got a view of my stomach lol Wish I had £85 to spend on training __________________ Currently Ex Biker Now rebuilding a 63' fishing trawler as a dive boat

01-10-07, 04:03 PM	#44
Stu Trinity Mega Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Guildford Posts: 8,027	Re: IAM OK yes it's a bit of a poor show, the observer should be 'protecting' the pupil and be able to keep up with him. But sounds like he took the option of pulling over & waiting for the pupil to return to him?

01-10-07, 05:51 PM	#45
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02-10-07, 08:45 PM	#48
Jackie_Black Guest Posts: n/a	Re: IAM The observer guy doesn't seem to be there to protect you in the way a DAS instructor does. Mainly there to watch what you are doing then tell you it's all wrong!!

02-10-07, 09:33 PM	#50
ninja bobw Guest Posts: n/a	Re: IAM Another course to go on is The Edge which is run by most local councils.Its only a one day affair but the observer is a member of the local constabulary.Probably one of the best riders of a motorcycle.I went on one about 3-4years ago which I found helpful to the extent that it was the first critique of my riding since passing my test in 1974 and have riden continuously since.Most insurance companies give a discount for this as well. As with all training its only any use if you follow the teachings everyday and I would agree with others on here that too much training makes some people think they are riding gods and invincible.With my advancing years and my desire to get even older, I naturally take less heroic chances than I did when I was a teenager.