Oh dear!

[yorkie_chris]

The pipes being on the wrong way, it just wouldn't run or maybe flood the back pot, not a big issue really.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Rumbling bearings, then a bang and no movement.
Your noise wasn't, IMO, a rumbling bearing.

Have you tried to turn the engine by rolling the bike (slowly)?

sounded similar to what actually happened though, theoretically what damage would that cause?

another thing ive noticed when the bike is in gear since that has happened even with the clutch in the bike feels like the clutch is out, nothing to do with the calbes ive checked. hope this helps with your results

[yorkie_chris]

Blown big end or main bearing = chuck the engine in the corner of the garage for spares.

What happens when you try to turn the engine?

by what in first gear, wheel just locks up cant get it to turn at all.

[yorkie_chris]

Try a higher gear, you should feel the resistance of compression, and there shouldn't be any crunchy noises from the top end

what bad signs am i looking for?

[yorkie_chris]

PM'd

oh and the wheel is still jsut locked cant move it unless clutch in

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by ljharmitt

oh and the wheel is still jsut locked cant move it unless clutch in

is that with the spark plugs out though? if they're still in the the compression will stop the engine rotating

i'm still very dubious that this isn't an electrical issue, in fact, based on what i've read in this thread i'd stick my neck out and bet dollars to doughnuts that the engine is fine and the starter motor circuitry is the problem

you have to respond to some questions if we are going to understand what's wrong with the bike, answering these will make it much easier:

1. Have you checked the oil correctly, with the bike upright? if so was it low?

2. As above, when you tried to roll the bike did you remove both the spark plugs?

we're trying to help, but there's not a lot of info to go on here...