update on my little cousin

Originally Posted by keithd

ok, thanks.

still no ocean apart. do you know if he knew her real age? does she look 16? you ever made a mistake guessing a womans' age?

IIRC from the original thread the boy knew damn well she was 13. Whether she looks 16 is irrelevant, as is whether Hovis has made a mistake guessing a woman's age in the past. As far as I'm aware, Hovis isn't awaiting the fruits of his loins to spring from a minor....

There is sometimes justified cause for abortion. Yes, it does mean that you end a life; but I would rather not bring a child into the world where it will not be loved, will suffer cruelty, will not be able to be looked after properly. This dosn't mean that unborn children with pre-diagnosed problems (i.e. downs syndrome etc) should be automaticaly aborted, because they can still be given a good quality of life and be loved.

I'm not very good at arguing my point, but I believe that under certain curcumstances abortion is a viable option.

But it is a very serious option, and giving your child up for adoption is a better idea.

I'll go away now

Yeah Stu, coz everyone knows all unwanted babies find loving foster parents and live happily ever after...

Let's move these discussions elsewhere to try to keep this one on track: see here:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...82#post1571282

Originally Posted by cartwrim

IIRC from the original thread the boy knew damn well she was 13. Whether she looks 16 is irrelevant, as is whether Hovis has made a mistake guessing a woman's age in the past. As far as I'm aware, Hovis isn't awaiting the fruits of his loins to spring from a minor....

just trying to find out where i said that....hmm ah i asked if he's made a mistake with a womans age...ah yep. i can see how you twisted that. my bad!

if the above is correct she was 13 at time of conception, he was 18 and knew it then he's a bad boy. its my opinion this doesnt make him a paedophile nor a "nonce"

[Messie]

Paws - I send you and your cousin all the best wishes and hugs for a happy healthy outcome to this. There's a very good chance all will be well.


Please don't think me speaking out of turn but have a think about building bridges with your cousin. You could be a very positive and comforting role model for her. She could find a lot of support from you. Hope you don't mind me saying

Originally Posted by keithd

if the above is correct she was 13 at time of conception, he was 18 and knew it then he's a bad boy. its my opinion this doesnt make him a paedophile nor a "nonce"

why not?

Originally Posted by cartwrim

I hope it all works out well and if she decides to keep it and she's happy then great....but I don't understand why she would be planning to have the baby and then put it up for adoption? Surely it would have been better just to have an abortion rather than bring an unwanted baby in to an already over-crowded world?

I don't mean to sound harsh, I just don't get it!

baby was not planned!! shes 13 mate , abortion was discussed but when they took her docs thehy discovered she was way too far to be able to do anything (as in she was 6-7 moths gone)-apparently she "didnt know"
I dont think he will be unwanted as their will be a couple out there who cant have a baby/afford ivf and so can adopt him

Originally Posted by Stu

Adopted - Far be it for me to judge, but that does lift my spirits.

Re, being small, for a 13 yr old to be verging on a size 10 would be verging on clinically obese AFAIC => as nature intended - might make her think what she's putting up there after what comes out

ermm howd you work out that she'd be obese as shes a size 8-10?? ever thought she might be tall?? shes nearly taller than me and im 5ft 5/ 5ft 6, her das well over 6ft 6 so shes gonna be a tall lass so is right weight etc.

Originally Posted by Messie

Paws - I send you and your cousin all the best wishes and hugs for a happy healthy outcome to this. There's a very good chance all will be well.


Please don't think me speaking out of turn but have a think about building bridges with your cousin. You could be a very positive and comforting role model for her. She could find a lot of support from you. Hope you don't mind me saying

Course i dont mind huni, until its all over and done with im staying well out of it all but time will tell.xx

Right update:

shes still in hosp, they are doing a scan on her kidneys and bladder as they arent happy (not sure if it due to baby squashing them or infection), also her glucose levels are v high and her dad is diabetic so running lots of tests at mo!
Consultant has now said he would rather she has a natural birth-no c section.