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Old 09-04-09, 08:09 PM   #51
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SO he finally caught and shot the lesser spotted but big mouthed Carl Fogarty

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What a wonderful idea - any chance we could make it a one-off Olympic sport in 2012 ?

Just set him loose at the start of the games - and make all the entrants wait 3 hrs before beginning the hunt.

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Old 09-04-09, 08:39 PM   #52
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I'm with Daimo on this one.

When bike designers design a bike one, of the things they aim to do is make the bike visually appealing, so by being hung on the wall for people to see & appreciate it is serving one of its functions.

And what about bike museums, all those bikes (including modern ones) just sitting there not being ridden & I think the vast majority of people think that they're cool places.

My old man has a bike that my Grandad restored in his hall & it's my favourite thing about the house.



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Old 09-04-09, 08:50 PM   #53
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"When bike designers design a bike one, of the things they aim to do is make the bike visually appealing".

OK, the next thing to ask yourself is in what ways is the Ducati visually appealing? Make a list and we'll take it from there.
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Old 09-04-09, 09:01 PM   #54
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I cant see a problem, he's got loads of dosh, he could buy a host of 916's and have one on every wall in the house.

To be fair, a lot of bikes (sportsbikes in particular) could be considered a waste. There are hundreds of examples of 5-6 year old bikes with less than 3000 miles on the clock.
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Old 09-04-09, 09:45 PM   #55
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me recorded that - somewhere on my ard drive I think.. I may play it and then record it on me camera to show those who missed it..
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Old 10-04-09, 09:58 AM   #56
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OK, the next thing to ask yourself is in what ways is the Ducati visually appealing? Make a list and we'll take it from there.

As I’m sure you’re aware, that question is very subjective. Different people find different things visually appealing, beauty is in the eye of the beerholder & all that.

I’m not particularly enamored by the looks of the 916, however I do like the look of the single sided swing arm & underseat exhausts.
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Old 10-04-09, 11:56 AM   #57
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I’m not particularly enamored by the looks of the 916, however I do like the look of the single sided swing arm & underseat exhausts.
You want one of these then:
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Old 10-04-09, 12:20 PM   #58
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Each to their own...

If he wants to hang a bike on his wall and look at it rather than ride it then fair enough. Although it is a waste of a bike, its not really much different to seeing all the bikes and cars and planes in a museum

Me? Id rather ride the bike and use it!
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Old 10-04-09, 12:49 PM   #59
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Design of the Ducati 916 was a balance between function and form: Lets take the two things Gazman mentions as an example:
The single-sided swingarm is beautiful, but designed to make wheel changes faster during races.
The underseat exhausts improve aerodynamic performance, and give very clean lines.
The beauty of both the single-sided swingarm and the underseat exhausts are therefore derived from how effectively they fulfill their purpose. Good design by its very nature is beautiful. The great Ducati designers like Fabio Taglioni and Massimo Tamburini were well aware of the interconnection between beauty and function. It’s this fundamental link between aesthetics and design that is particularly prevalent in Italian design. It's what makes Italian motorbikes synonymous to works of art and it’s a tradition that's been passed down to designers from the Renaissance.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that an object has to be functional in order to be beautiful. Such a narrow point of view would not be taking into account the important contribution that art and/or decoration make to our psychological and aesthetic sensibilities. Take the word functional out of the equation and I agree with you that beauty does become subjective. However, and lets be clear about this, once a work of art or design is taken out of its context and placed within an altogether different, alien context to which it was originally intended, its very meaning and reason for being changes. Putting a Ducati on a wall is like caging a bird. True, you can still appreciate its beauty. But ohhh, give the bird its freedom and let it fly and sing and then tell me which is the sweeter!
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Very poetic, but they're more form than function. If they'd have been paying attention they might not have spent so long on making the lines of the fairing flow to perfectly to the eye, and a little more on the electrical system.
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