New VFR1200 - Page 6 - SV650.org

08-10-09, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bluefishman

I know nowt about engines, but have two dog's if that helps.

They could sit on the pillion seat

I think i want one of these VFR's. Although i have a suspicion its VTEC, although I'm not sure. I dont like the vtec idea. But i like the single cam idea operating the inlet and exhaust valves (operates the exhaust valves by, what looks like to me, a rocker arm)

dizzyblonde · 08-10-09, 07:06 PM

ASH...you're a viffer nerd ain't ya

08-10-09, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

ASH...you're a viffer nerd ain't ya

I have no idea what you mean

08-10-09, 07:39 PM

It's not really a Viffer, is it? It's a hyperbike to replace the Blackbird, rather than a replacement for the VFR800. Though from what I hear, Blackbird owners aren't too happy with it. I suspect that most VFR800 owners wouldn't really consider it to be a replacement for their bikes. Triumph might well sell a lot of Sprint STs to disgruntled viffer owners.

I'm thinking about going back to a sports tourer, as my Speed Triple has the luggage capacity of a gnats handbag and my dullville, whilst having huge luggage capacity, is not something that I enjoy riding. So if I do get another sports tourer, I'd probably be looking at something like the Sprint ST or the F800ST. I'd never consider getting one of these.

08-10-09, 09:03 PM

It's minging - even uglier than the ginger one in Girls Aloud and dare I say it... curvy SVs

08-10-09, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zsv650

there's no pic's but if it look's any like the concept i saw not really my cup of tea look's a bit like a jelly mold for me however i'm sure the engine will be great knowing honda.

You obviously don't remember the CB900F, VF750F and CB250 G5. Firestorms are known for knackering water pumps and camchain tensioners etc etc. The VFR800i was deemed a charmless bike after the 750, the 800 Vtec is a waste of time as a sports tourer. Need I go on?

Honda aren't any better than anyone else at developing new bikes, they just build them to a higher standard when they put them into production

09-10-09, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lozzo

It's minging - even uglier than the ginger one in Girls Aloud and dare I say it... curvy SVs

you and I sir are heading in the direction of "enemies"

However, I share your sentiments on honda reliability...they really learnt their lesson after the VF bikes made them design the VFR750's properly, then I suppose they sort of forgot about that with the late 90's bikes. the pre-vtec 800's apparently have alot of electrical problems (including dashboard faliure) and the exhausts are going to rot through. Not if, when. Shame, because one went by me yesterday and it sounded great

Lets see how this VFR stands. Now i've slept on it, i'll wait a year from its launch in the shops before wanting one properly!

STRAMASHER · 09-10-09, 07:12 AM

The most exciting bike of next year and the most anticipated.
The more I look at it the more I like it. And I hate the looks of the new 'Blade.

Big design step forward. Classy, tidy build. No visible bolts. Does not look too plasticy for me. Front takes a bit of getting used to but so did the VTEC, I thought that looked like a scooter.

I'm going for 145rwbhp+ but what I like the sound of more is biggish torque at 3k. That is what a viffer needs. 18 and a bit litre tank is a bit of a worry but maybe Honda have got it nearly as frugal as the BMW's.

Bit of weight works well on the road. I'll take the extra weight penalty of the shaft. Not as nice as the BM version but probably lasts longer than 10K. That fat exhaust would get dumped straight away of course.

Supposedly £12,000 and you don't get the real innovations( gearbox and cylinder cut out) till 2011. Probably get a black one then too. Silver and white?

They will still sell loads. Alas not to me at that kind of price. Old (rich)man bike.

Gazza77 · 09-10-09, 07:30 AM

Not keen, but might grow on me when I see one int he flesh. Sounds heavy though, in part perhaps due to the shaft drive? Seems to me like they are trying to mix the VFR, Blackbird and also pull some people away from the Pan European with one bike. Time will tell if it will work, or if it will just alienate all three potential markets.

09-10-09, 08:52 AM

I think your right there gazza. It will be all the power of the blackbird, all the useability of the pan euro, but maybe less of the sportyness of the VFR?

I too can see triumph getting a few more sales. I also wonder how much the price of vfr800's will drop - if at all, people may still demand the 800 on the face of things like the weight and looks

08-10-09, 07:06 PM	#52
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08-10-09, 07:39 PM	#54
wyrdness Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New VFR1200 It's not really a Viffer, is it? It's a hyperbike to replace the Blackbird, rather than a replacement for the VFR800. Though from what I hear, Blackbird owners aren't too happy with it. I suspect that most VFR800 owners wouldn't really consider it to be a replacement for their bikes. Triumph might well sell a lot of Sprint STs to disgruntled viffer owners. I'm thinking about going back to a sports tourer, as my Speed Triple has the luggage capacity of a gnats handbag and my dullville, whilst having huge luggage capacity, is not something that I enjoy riding. So if I do get another sports tourer, I'd probably be looking at something like the Sprint ST or the F800ST. I'd never consider getting one of these.

08-10-09, 09:03 PM	#55
Lozzo Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New VFR1200 It's minging - even uglier than the ginger one in Girls Aloud and dare I say it... curvy SVs

09-10-09, 07:12 AM	#58
STRAMASHER Member Mega Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sunny Glasgow Posts: 1,715	Re: New VFR1200 The most exciting bike of next year and the most anticipated. The more I look at it the more I like it. And I hate the looks of the new 'Blade. Big design step forward. Classy, tidy build. No visible bolts. Does not look too plasticy for me. Front takes a bit of getting used to but so did the VTEC, I thought that looked like a scooter. I'm going for 145rwbhp+ but what I like the sound of more is biggish torque at 3k. That is what a viffer needs. 18 and a bit litre tank is a bit of a worry but maybe Honda have got it nearly as frugal as the BMW's. Bit of weight works well on the road. I'll take the extra weight penalty of the shaft. Not as nice as the BM version but probably lasts longer than 10K. That fat exhaust would get dumped straight away of course. Supposedly £12,000 and you don't get the real innovations( gearbox and cylinder cut out) till 2011. Probably get a black one then too. Silver and white? They will still sell loads. Alas not to me at that kind of price. Old (rich)man bike.

09-10-09, 07:30 AM	#59
Gazza77 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hebden Bridge Posts: 520	Re: New VFR1200 Not keen, but might grow on me when I see one int he flesh. Sounds heavy though, in part perhaps due to the shaft drive? Seems to me like they are trying to mix the VFR, Blackbird and also pull some people away from the Pan European with one bike. Time will tell if it will work, or if it will just alienate all three potential markets. __________________ Formerly Blue K5 with added bits Then Triumph Sprint ST with scottoiler and R&Gs & TOR exhaust Now Benelli Tornado

09-10-09, 08:52 AM	#60
Alpinestarhero Guest Posts: n/a	Re: New VFR1200 I think your right there gazza. It will be all the power of the blackbird, all the useability of the pan euro, but maybe less of the sportyness of the VFR? I too can see triumph getting a few more sales. I also wonder how much the price of vfr800's will drop - if at all, people may still demand the 800 on the face of things like the weight and looks