your views if you will

Originally Posted by plowsie

Make the **** suffer!

+10000000000000000000

My view on rapists and peodo's are very strong taking someone humanity like that is unforgivable, and thats assuming its a man raping a woman. Pedo's are the least respected sick scum of this planet. This guy combines the worst of both these 2 animals and to be perfectly honest crucified and decapitated sounds like one hell of a let off to me.

Id have him strung up, hanging by his arms for days ocasionally given water to prolong the agony of dying. Let his skin blister in the sun, maybe oil the son of a bitch to make it worse for him. Then when his body has decided it cant take anymore and it gives up and he dies, Then chop his head off and leave it to decay for a further week in the same spot.

See how many people do it again after that.

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

+10000000000000000000

My view on rapists and peodo's are very strong taking someone humanity like that is unforgivable, and thats assuming its a man raping a woman. Pedo's are the least respected sick scum of this planet. This guy combines the worst of both these 2 animals and to be perfectly honest crucified and decapitated sounds like one hell of a let off to me.

Id have him strung up, hanging by his arms for days ocasionally given water to prolong the agony of dying. Let his skin blister in the sun, maybe oil the son of a bitch to make it worse for him. Then when his body has decided it cant take anymore and it gives up and he dies, Then chop his head off and leave it to decay for a further week in the same spot.

See how many people do it again after that.

ah, but would it deter these people? I very much doubt it would. I believe the urge they have is too strong.

Not disagreeing with you but the leaving the head to decay bit wouldnt serve much purpose IMO

[jambo]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Anyone against, if it was your kid, I'd wager you'd cut more than his head off...

As I said in my original post. We have not yet managed a system that manages a 0% false conviction rate. This is my objection to capital punishment.

I'm generally not a fan of mob justice.

However, the people that are prepared to do this should be removed from society and never released, for any reason other than new evidence acquitting them of the original crime.

Jambo

[ophic]

Originally Posted by jambo

As I said in my original post. We have not yet managed a system that manages a 0% false conviction rate. This is my objection to capital punishment.

I'm generally not a fan of mob justice.

However, the people that are prepared to do this should be removed from society and never released, for any reason other than new evidence acquitting them of the original crime.

Jambo

I agree with this as long as society can sustain the cost of keeping them. Should it ever fall to the point where there's not enough food/money to go around, imho they should be the first to go. Maybe we could just ship them off somewhere? somewhere nice & sunny with glorious beaches

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

ah, but would it deter these people? I very much doubt it would. I believe the urge they have is too strong.

Not disagreeing with you but the leaving the head to decay bit wouldnt serve much purpose IMO

It wouldnt decay much in a week anyway, but it would serve as a strong enough reminder to anyone who saw it there. I have no respect or even a second of my time to offer anyone who prays on children, detest isnt a strong enough word.

The death sentence seems like such a good idea. What better way to punish someone for such an abhorrent crime than to extinguish their existence?
It's interesting that we make a case against it because our judicial system is flawed. Does it help us sleep at night knowing that instead of taking someone's life we have simply denied them the right to live, so it's not so bad if we're wrong about their guilt? That's nice. At least we can release them at a later date should we bother to reopen the case or hear an appeal.

To me that seems a little absurd. Either we have faith in "the system" or we don't. If we don't we should be just as reluctant to imprison someone for a long time as we are to take their life. If we do then punishment should be determined by what we hope to achieve. If we think life imprisonment is too lenient and not enough of a deterrent to others, and we think the best way to stop a crime being committed again (by the offender or anyone else) is to execute the guilty party and make sure everyone knows about it then it must be in the public interest to execute the person.

They've found him guilty, they have confidence in their system. They want to stop it happening again. In a way you have to admire that, but of course it's easy to say that if you're not a wrongly convicted person with a week to live.

Originally Posted by leedsmatt7

It wouldnt decay much in a week anyway, but it would serve as a strong enough reminder to anyone who saw it there. I have no respect or even a second of my time to offer anyone who prays on children, detest isnt a strong enough word.

i am not arguing with that! What I am trying to say is that many of these people are driven by urges. It is a sexual orientation. Not a right one, and I am NOT comparing it to homo or hetro sexuality. I really don't think any sort of punishment will deter them.

Originally Posted by Milky Bar Kid

i am not arguing with that! What I am trying to say is that many of these people are driven by urges. It is a sexual orientation. Not a right one, and I am NOT comparing it to homo or hetro sexuality. I really don't think any sort of punishment will deter them.

I should have put some smileys in my post, I wasnt arguing either lol. Just letting the rage filter through a little more

I think I know what your saying, those that feel the need to do it will do it/find a way to do it regardless of the consiquence because they will be urged to do it by something more primal thats inside them - is that correct?

But I do still belive that if they were punished in the way which I said previously then there would be less occurances. Once someones done it, I know that they'll do it again and again until they're caught but even prolonging that period until they do the first attack is surely a result. Thats why I still think a long and public torturous extermination is the only punishment.
At the very least it should be an incarseration for 6months until the families of the victims/the survivors themselves have had time to reflect on a suitable punishment. Once they have reached a decision then what ever they wish for should be made reality.

[Kalessin]

But the article is from the Daily Mail! That means it's at best 50 per cent accurate.

Originally Posted by madness

Not that many decades ago, homosexuality was thought upon as being disgusting and perverted and was indeed illegal. Nowdays it is acceptable and I believe it has even been proven that it is due to the genetic make up of individuals. In future, will we find that the attitude to paedophillia changes.

Good grief.

All sort of things that have been illegal in the past are now perfectly legal. None of them have anything to do with paedophilia, either. You might just as well say that because it didn't used to be a legal requirement for motorists to wear seat belts or crash helmets, maybe one day paedophilia will be legal. It's about as relevant, but without the homophobic undertone.

My personal opinion is that they're right to execute him, the crimes that were carried out were dispicable.
Again my personal opinion, i'd have him tortured, let the families of the victims have their pound of flesh.
I'm sure the "wooly" brigade will have some form of opinion on it, but who are we to interfere in another countries laws?
If you don't like the laws then don't live their or commit the crimes in the first place.
Same goes for immigrants over here, but that's a different kettle of fish all together.

What should constitute the death penalty though?
Murder?
Paedophillia?
Rape?
Drink driving?
Shop lifting?

Should a plea of diminished responsibilities be taken into account to give a lesser sentence?
As is the case alot of the time.

Abi