MW10 - Contravention of special roads regulations (not inc. speeding) - why so harsh on insurance?

Kind sir,are you prechance extracting the urine

[Paul the 6th]

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

Just subscribing so I can read this later

tis quite informative, funny and contraversial in places col

Originally Posted by irons

if you read it in context its from an insurance point of view. points on your licence to them shows poor driving.

The fact you got the 3 points shows poor driving,

Your words and not an insurance underwriters.

Points dont give any evidence of poor driving. Looks like you enjoy sticking in your opinion and thats it. When you can post factual statements that would stand up i`ll bother to read them. Till then i`ll leave u to carry on talking like the contents of a pair of budgie smugglers.

[Paul the 6th]

I'm off to butterfly world toodle pip

Just dont cross a swl on the way!!

[dizzyblonde]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I don't care who anyone is or what they have done, if their attitude is patronising then they will get short shrift from me and told exactly what I think about it.

By bringing age into it you've just shot your own argument right in the tits. You cannot say I know feck all and then call my arguments abusive, that's rich.

If you are too grumpy to bring facts to table and discuss like a grown up then probably best to leave the internet forums alone hey?

So I got out of the wrong side of the bed, thought seeing as though everyone else was being grumpy, opinionated and self righteous, then so can I!

Obviously hit a nerve then
WTF should I leave a forum alone...kinda like it here

[Paul the 6th]

Originally Posted by Electro

Just dont cross a swl on the way!!

nah there was a guy in a vectra right up my chuff all along the a64 from leeds to the a1m... Looked like he was gunning for me to overtake the articulated lorry on solid white lines all the way but waited for dual carriageway..

Shoulda seen his face when I took off (just had it re-mapped to 320-ish bhp) "That s-reg audi A4 just broke the sound barrier?!"

[Paul the 6th]

oh and the butterflies were mint btw - enjoyed the meerkats more though

Originally Posted by Electro

lose and the points, fine and other punishment increase for some reason or other because you ask a Magistrate to take other circumstances into consideration. There should be a no worries way of going to court to seek clarification of the why`s and the hows but you get punished more for daring to question the law

No you don't, IN THEORY!

I have walked away from court with 3 points and 60 quid, and the sheriff all but announced to the court that the fact I was there was the result of a speed camera partnership wasting the courts time instead of just issuing a fixed penalty. Although I was more than 50% over the limit (64 in a 40), I was within the ACPO guidelines for an FPN, not a court apperance, therefore it should have been dealt with in that manner. Now I realise that me being summonsed to court, is different to me asking to go to court, but it SHOULDN'T matter, the punishment IN THEORY should still fit the crime.

It SHOULD be the case that you only get more points and a bigger fine, if actually the copper was letting you off lightly by giving you an FPN, and by taking it to court you opened yourself up to a bigger fine and more points, that being appropriate for the offence you committed.

If you took 80 mph on a motorway to court because you disagreed with the speed you were alleged to be doing, but the charge was upheld and you lost, you still SHOULDN'T be getting more than the standard 3 points and 60 quid that you would expect for that offence.

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

No. Allow me, if you will, to draw your attention to post 1, article 1, sentence 1, with which I opened this thread:

Please also allow me to point out that:

It's also worth taking into consideration, post 1, article 3, subsection 2 of sentence 2:

Still no complaining from me, even down at paragraph 6, subsection 1, here we note that:

And then, just in case, to make absolute certain, to guarantee, to be 100% sure that I'm not coming across as having a whinge, I've gone back to my original question as detailed in post 1, article 1, sentence 1, with which I opened this thread

Firkin lost me mate

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

But so as not to derail this thread - I now know that MW10 is a blanket endorsement which can apply to far worse examples of driving

I had an MW10 for speeding!

I was in a 50 limit roadworks on the M5 (in 1998, long before the days of average speed cameras) which I went through at about 75mph, then as I hit the national speed limit sign I hit the the cruise control 'resume' button, which was set to 95mph. I got pulled about 2 miles further up the motorway by an unmarked Rover 800 that had VASCAR'd me (these 20yr olds only been on the road for 3 yrs will need to google that, they know nothing ).

Got in the back of the cop car and he asked if I knew what speed I was doing, realising I was done for I said "yep, the cruise control was set to 95", he nodded and said, "OK, you realise how serious 95mph is through roadworks with a 50 limit, but since you've been straight with me, I'm going to give you a fixed penalty", I thought "I wasn't doing 95 though the 50 limit", but I realised I was getting an FPN, deserved the FPN for 95 in a 70 anyway, so there was no point arguing with the guy about whether or not it was through the roadworks, just take the ticket and run.

When the license came back it was MW10. I was expecting an SP offence code so I looked it up and found it was "Contravening motorway regulations", so I thought it was just 'cos the guy had booked me for speeding in the temporary 50 limit.

It was only recently I looked at a list of offence codes for another reason and saw the "except speeding" bit. Whether it was just a screw up that I got one, or whether "except speeding" is something added since I don't know.

Originally Posted by dizzyblonde

and a retired police officer, DT only speaks from experience....from both sides of the coin.

Really? Don't think you ever told me that one DT. I thought you'd been on the trucks most of your days. Even if you had told me, I have a memory like a sieve. One to accompany the next bottle of malt!

Originally Posted by Dicky Ticker

Kind sir,are you prechance extracting the urine

I wasn't, I just saw a few posts from a few users who are almost as notorious as me and thought "hmmm, this should be interesting". But now I've read it, yes, urine taking is indeed in order....

...Are yer bunions geein ye jip? 'Cos yer geein it some backjaw the day, ye grumpy auld mither!

Originally Posted by Electro

Points dont give any evidence of poor driving.

+1, how many roads that have been perfectly safe for 30 years at 60 mph, have had the limits dropped to 50 or even 40 mph? Points mean feck all.

[Geodude]

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

oh and the butterflies were mint btw - enjoyed the meerkats more though

Preston park butterfly world? meercats are mint also. Derail over