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Old 24-10-06, 12:34 PM   #51
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If you've been involved with it it does affect the way you view things and all respect to those who have dealt with it.

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Old 24-10-06, 03:05 PM   #52
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Ok everyone, I think it's time for Now there's a good bunch



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Sorry if Ive caused offence to anyone. This is a very emotive subject for me - not least because whenever its raised my mind recalls images and sounds of videos which will never leave me they are so horrific. With that in mind tends to make me a bit tetchy when people ask for awareness then criticise anyone giving it.

This isnt meant as a criticism of Babyj or anyone else with well meaning intentions. But I am very able and qualified to try and make people, particularly parents on this forum, aware of the reality and where the risks really lie or what can be done constructively to help.

If you want awareness then you have to be prepared for a harsh and unpleasant truth. That making yourself feel good by lighting a virtual candle only helps you and your conscience but doesnt make much difference if thats all you leave it as.

On that note I'll leave with a
What does it matter to you how it makes people feel?? So you have seen it first hand, You are not the only one to be affected by theses issues! Do you not think we are aware what these sicko's do to these children?? So what if it makes me feel better by lighting a candle, and YES it does helps my consience.

I am not trying to change the world here Lynw, I couldn't possibly do that with this "issue" I am just trying to make people aware that's all!!

You call me a defeatist and a hypocrite, I am certainly not either! The reason for my hesitant original post was purely through nerves as to how this subject would be met. Simple. And I am certainly not afraid of the truth, if that were the case I would not have made the thread in the first place. It is you who is afraid. Afraid of what you saw.

Stop being so bloody opinionated and take it purely for what it is!!

I'm sorry for being so simple minded!
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Old 24-10-06, 03:36 PM   #53
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Ok everyone, I think it's time for Now there's a good bunch



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Sorry if Ive caused offence to anyone. This is a very emotive subject for me - not least because whenever its raised my mind recalls images and sounds of videos which will never leave me they are so horrific. With that in mind tends to make me a bit tetchy when people ask for awareness then criticise anyone giving it.

This isnt meant as a criticism of Babyj or anyone else with well meaning intentions. But I am very able and qualified to try and make people, particularly parents on this forum, aware of the reality and where the risks really lie or what can be done constructively to help.

If you want awareness then you have to be prepared for a harsh and unpleasant truth. That making yourself feel good by lighting a virtual candle only helps you and your conscience but doesnt make much difference if thats all you leave it as.

On that note I'll leave with a
What does it matter to you how it makes people feel?? So you have seen it first hand, You are not the only one to be affected by theses issues! Do you not think we are aware what these sicko's do to these children?? So what if it makes me feel better by lighting a candle, and YES it does helps my consience.

I am not trying to change the world here Lynw, I couldn't possibly do that with this "issue" I am just trying to make people aware that's all!!

You call me a defeatist and a hypocrite, I am certainly not either! The reason for my hesitant original post was purely through nerves as to how this subject would be met. Simple. And I am certainly not afraid of the truth, if that were the case I would not have made the thread in the first place. It is you who is afraid. Afraid of what you saw.

Stop being so bloody opinionated and take it purely for what it is!!

I'm sorry for being so simple minded!


It seems to me that there are an awful lot of people on this forum that seem to make a career out of belittling other peoples points of view. Sure, these people are entitled to their opinion but not to the point that it belittles people.

I think these people need to just lighten up a little. Lynw says she has seen many horrific things regarding paedophiles. Fine. No problem. I sympathise, but you gotta deal with it. I see horrific sights virtually every shift I do. For instance, a mothers grief after she had accidentally run over her son; a father and son burnt to death in an RTC- one in which they were the innocent parties. I could go on but I won't as there isn't much point and it would soon get a bit boring. The point that BabyJ was trying to make was NOT one of trying to change the world but to raise awareness. There is a difference.

Flame me if you like. I'm not really that bothered.

Good on you though BabyJ for raising awareness.
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Old 24-10-06, 03:43 PM   #54
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Thanks for the encouragement Belleropon (and everyone else who has shown their support) it means a lot xx
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Old 24-10-06, 04:03 PM   #55
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Old 24-10-06, 04:31 PM   #56
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Do you not think we are aware what these sicko's do to these children?? So what if it makes me feel better by lighting a candle, and YES it does helps my consience.
BabyJ, In fairness... you clicked a gif, and you eased your conscience?
Lyn (regardless of her tone) actually did something.

The site is meaningless. Sorry if that upsets you. Like you say yourself, no one needs be "made aware" that molestors exist.
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Old 24-10-06, 04:52 PM   #57
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Do you not think we are aware what these sicko's do to these children?? So what if it makes me feel better by lighting a candle, and YES it does helps my consience.
BabyJ, In fairness... you clicked a gif, and you eased your conscience?
Lyn (regardless of her tone) actually did something.

The site is meaningless. Sorry if that upsets you. Like you say yourself, no one needs be "made aware" that molestors exist.
no...but perhaps a gentle reminder from time to time dont hurt
besides whats wrong with making your views and feelings known

if you dont stand up and be counted for what you beleive in then you may aswell go and bury yourself

the next time someone puts a poll up...dont bother voting...after all...it dont mean anything does it?
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Old 24-10-06, 05:10 PM   #58
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no...but perhaps a gentle reminder from time to time dont hurt
besides whats wrong with making your views and feelings known

if you dont stand up and be counted for what you beleive in then you may aswell go and bury yourself

the next time someone puts a poll up...dont bother voting...after all...it dont mean anything does it?
A gentle reminder. Sound. Because, I had almost forgotten my mate was abused by a priest in Dublin. And it had clean slipped my mind how that kiddie porn existed and was a bad thing.

And, I am relieved that every one can ease their concience by clicking a gif.

I am saying what I believe. That is what I am doing. I am not burying my head in the sand. It might be unpopular, but I think its true.

If someone puts up a poll, they are looking for a consensus opinion. This has nothing to do with polls or voting.
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Old 24-10-06, 05:18 PM   #59
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My friend does something about it...she knicks people that do this stuff, and throws them in jail. I lit a candle ages ago.

As i saw on a bumper sticker one "make a parent happy, Run over a Peadophile"
even bumper stickers have spelling mistakes these days

no wonder the country is going to walthamstow
No Keith, Viney's talking about the small vegetable molesters.


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Old 24-10-06, 05:18 PM   #60
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Do you not think we are aware what these sicko's do to these children?? So what if it makes me feel better by lighting a candle, and YES it does helps my consience.
BabyJ, In fairness... you clicked a gif, and you eased your conscience?
Lyn (regardless of her tone) actually did something.

The site is meaningless. Sorry if that upsets you. Like you say yourself, no one needs be "made aware" that molestors exist.

I'm not upset, but what you are saying is just because I haven't actually worked within that organization then I'm not entitled to start this "meaningless" thread (as you put it) ??

But someone posting what they've had for breakfast or what the best colour for their bike is or whether or not they should go out today is ok??? (Sorry not putting down those posts just trying to make a point!)

You think this thread is meaningless yet you post your opinion. A little hypoctritical don't you think?
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