How does your restricted 33bhp pointy SV650 feel?

Uberloin stop being an idiot. I was just reading your old thread where the restricting sliders were going to "fall out". 100 miles at full power is exactly that-100 miles.That's not a lot. I'd stop whingeing and get on with it. I had to when I ran my new bike in.

I might have to have a go on an RS50 if they're so great, but then again I'd probably snap the little thing in half!

crikey how old is this thread!? i've done so many miles since then it feels like an age ago. i said 1000 miles, not 100 :S

also, if it's a new machine, then assuming you're running it in correctly, u wouldn't notice the restrictor for the first 1000 miles - 8k rev limit i believe...

speaking of mileage i do around 22000 miles a year. - that shocked everyone at hideout on their open day - a lot do around 3-4k a year -( that's lame) :-p

i was also assessed by an IAM police class 1 instructor who said my riding was exceptionally good - straight in for the IAM's test - i wish i believed that - im so critical of my riding all the time maybe that's why i get better quickly, still, not much fun being pernickety all the time! :-p

oh well!


rode down to chichester recently to burry my gran's ashes, went to portsmourth - i reckon the cops are a lil tougher down there somehow! :-p

regarding the weather, it was perfect pathetic fallacy - **** weather, sad event, gatso infested roads - quite an undesirable triad!
i kept out of trouble fortunately (i hope anyway)

im not happy with my front suspension. now there's a topic we cud all talk 4 hours on - suspension setups!

oh speaking of the rs50 - it was really great when it was setup right - i went round some tight corners a lot quicker on that than on my sv, i miss its chuckability a lot a bend i used to mange 52mph exactly round on a chicane now has to be taken at a mere 41mph on the sv

hehe!

ride safe people

33 on mine felt o upto around 75-80 from then on it took a while and it really couldnt crack 100 unless the wind was in favour or i had a tow (slip stream...).

Mine is a pointy model and when it was restricted it was just the ECU which had been changed as soon as 2 years was up it took me 5 mins to change the ECU back to the full power and off i went.

To those who think 33bhp is inadequate then you would be ringht if you was considering overtaking i agree with what has been said, it make overtaking a dangerous business! But tbh if you are wanting to have fun, take it to the bendy bits! Its great fun on the bends even without the 72(ish) BHP, so concentrate on that and when you get the extra BHP youll be a Daemon on the breaks and the corners.

Well thats my rant Have fun and take care!

Nick

My local mechanic who im quite matey with complained when i said the sv was quick when you gave it some (when full power). He also refused to help me maintain it and use his rather amazing set of Snap-On tools unless he de-restricted the bike. He has a problem with this law and he's big so i didn't feel like arguing, and seeing as ive saved myself £200 in maintenance costs and learnt how to save £200 every 5000 miles i don't think i'll tell him that i put the restrictors straight back in afterwards... lol!!!

I reckon as long as i pretend to sound enthusiastic he'll believe it's still in its 'fun' state :-p

Anyhow, this discussion was already locked once so it's probably time to end it.

Oops i had the last word...

it should state somewhere on the paperwork u get when u have the bike restricted how it was done. my brother has a 2001cbr600f restricted to 33bhp and it states that the bike is restricted by a throttle stop and washers in the throttle bodies to restict the fuel flow.

so id say check ur paperwork

[Rich]

This whole thread has kids saying that overtaking on a 33bhp SV is dangerous . This annoys me because i manage to overtake quiet easily on the 33bhp. It's all about preperation and knowing your limits, it's not all about opening the throttle and blasting off past someone on a blind bend.

I've been on rideouts and even been out with a few of the orgers and they didn't notice a difference of the power of my SV until i told them (unless they were pulling the wool over my eyes) Unless your overtaking cars past the speed limit your not going to struggle.

So abit of advice which will i think help you when you do get a full licence, learn how to overtake using 33bhp and learn how to ride using the 33bhp. I know alot of people think this laws cr@p but im making the best of a bad job and having a hoot at the same time. Theres no better feeling than seeing someone on a 1000cc sports bike struggling to keep up with a 33bhp SV because they havent mastered cornering.

[northwind]

Originally Posted by 1RichSV650

This whole thread has kids saying that overtaking on a 33bhp SV is dangerous . This annoys me because i manage to overtake quiet easily on the 33bhp. It's all about preperation and knowing your limits, it's not all about opening the throttle and blasting off past someone on a blind bend.

I think what they really mean is "You can't overtake in totally the wrong gear, like you can on a full power" I must have overtaken thousands of cars with my 9bhp on the 125, course, it couldn't go above 60mph...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by northwind

I think what they really mean is "You can't overtake in totally the wrong gear, like you can on a full power" I must have overtaken thousands of cars with my 9bhp on the 125, course, it couldn't go above 60mph...

Yeh you understand, its what you do with it just because its bigger doesn't mean it's as well ridden or as fast on the road!!!

I'm getting tired of people quoting "kids" when this is also the belief of someone who has done a damn site more miles over a much greater length of time than you. And no i am not simply regurgitating what he is saying "33bhp is dangerous". no it isnt in it's own right. I know how to ride the bike using only about 15 of it's horses because i can't afford to run it over about 5k revs for the most part. for the other 5-10% f the time, the extra accelration of the more potent bike will make a phenominal difference.

Also, I don't think it's much of an achievement beating a useless rider on a gsxr1000. there is reason why this bike is most popular - money + born agains...
i think it's incredibly vain to suggest that you've mastered cornering especially almost as a result of having the bike restricted and undermines a lot fo the credit i gave you for simply being responsible in the eyes of the law.

Another thing is, that i have compared my corner speed using the bike full power, and not. My cornering was a lot better and this is quite logical: a bike with greater flexibility at higher revs affords much better control and allows you to fire out of the corner faster too. The extra power also helps to pick the bike up if you are really leant over.

So, if as you say "you are making the best of a bad job", then please don't contradict yourself by making it out as if actually your cornering skills have become comparably better, than they would ahve been if youd otherwise had 70bhp. The factors influencing good cornering skills are multi-faceted and power delivery has a lot to do with it.

This is also a reason why a capped power plateau across half the top of the rev range is also destroying your abiltiy to learn to feed in power at an acceptable rate. it's no good simply pinning the throttle and knowing it won't bring much harm on a large sweeping bend.

If i consider the personal point that my area has corners which are divided unfavourably for such low power corning skill refinement then my "truth" informs me very differently: the really tight bends where 33bhp would be adequate for racing round is unacceptable due to surface conditions and visiblity.Thus if you use the corners here which are safe enough to rehearse and hone fast cornering skills, the you're well over the national speed limit anyway...which as we all know is also illegal...

When all is said and done, most legal eagles will say that the "low power = more danger" argument is falatious, and a red herring failing miserably to disguise the fact that kids want to go faster and faster...

Those commenting on this issue from the point of view that "the law is gods word" are missing the point too. Not obeying it makes us criminals - not simply thoughtful and responsible individuals.

So id say the liability of akid is down to your temperament. If you hack it round a corner too fast on any bike, you're going to come to harm - or others are...Having ridden several bikes, some restricted, some not, id say i was always the more responsible rider on a full power machine -less inclined to thrash the machine and constantly push the cornering limits to compensate for straight lines. and two stroke 125 racers - faster at cornering than any big bike in the tighter twisties, but most people of 17 use them to do just what they were intended for: thrash and crash.

I'm willing to accept that a discussion of the merits of taking the law into one's own hands are of course likely to generate varying degrees of controversy!

Give it a rest mate.