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[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by svpilot

We can't expect children to behave like rational adults, which is why we as adults should take more care around schools/residential areas IMO.

This is EXACTLY the problem with society these days.

All thanks to the Victorians (I believe) who invented the concept of a childhood.

Because of this we have 18yo's who are still considered children, when in the past they would have been out of school and mostly responsible for themselves.

The whole "Think of the children" thing is crazy.

Are there really more Paedophiles and Perverts out there now than there were 20 years ago?

I think society molly-coddles the young too much these days - well you cant even play run-after and catch games in the playground.

To merge this thread with the Owners Responsible for Dogs one, why not have a law that if a child you are legally responsible for (as in Legal Guardian) commits a crime, you as the guardian are liable for it as if you had done it yourself.

Rant over..............

Originally Posted by svpilot

You say this as if there is a sure-fire way to "stop kids getting squashed in the first place" One that renders the speed pf passing motorists irrelevant.

We can't expect children to behave like rational adults, which is why we as adults should take more care around schools/residential areas IMO.

Even if you can't bare to slow down because your ABS equppied car can stop quick enough, or if you believe a child runs out in 2M in front of you it doesn't matter if you are doing 20 30 or 40 (This is how you have come accross to me, even if this was not your intention). How about slowing down for good PR? So the parents don't have their hearts in their mouths every time a car/bike/truck flys past inches from their children.

Unfortunately you, as most people (adults, incidently) would, read what I've writen in this thread and jump to the conclusion that I was some how saying it's ok to bomb past a school at 50mph. This is not the case.

What I'm saying as a rational adult, is that if you want to prevent kids from getting hurt, you need to look at how the most effective way of doing this is. Guilting an insignificant number of drivers into slowing down by a few mph while passing outside a school (which is where this argument started) which will result in achieving the square root of f**k all in reducing casualties - this is not the way. I'd bet money that more kids get squished no-where near school and by cars that aren't exceeding the limt than by speeding cars right outside the gate.

As Soulkiss says, teaching kids that they've got to take responsibility for themselves would probably be more effective. I accept that this won't always work as kids will be kids sometimes, but there's little point trying to blame a driver (speeding or not) if you're dead.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Unfortunately you, as most people (adults, incidently) would, read what I've writen in this thread and jump to the conclusion that I was some how saying it's ok to bomb past a school at 50mph. This is not the case.

What I'm saying as a rational adult, is that if you want to prevent kids from getting hurt, you need to look at how the most effective way of doing this is. Guilting an insignificant number of drivers into slowing down by a few mph while passing outside a school (which is where this argument started) which will result in achieving the square root of f**k all in reducing casualties - this is not the way. I'd bet money that more kids get squished no-where near school and by cars that aren't exceeding the limt than by speeding cars right outside the gate.

As Soulkiss says, teaching kids that they've got to take responsibility for themselves would probably be more effective. I accept that this won't always work as kids will be kids sometimes, but there's little point trying to blame a driver (speeding or not) if you're dead.

So all you are really arguing about is the method of teaching in the excercise that took place was incorrect in your view.

Can I just confirm I had a 7 year old come home with a greater awareness and appreciation of why it was dangerous to be on or around all roads - and also that she knows how many children have been hurt and injured in and around schools so also knows what could happen if she isnt careful - i.e. the consequences. Hopefully there was a few drivers out there that were also educated on why they should be careful driving past schools.

Also, as a non-res i have no idea what green code is but I took it upon myself (as a "responsible" parent) to educate my kids on road safety a few years back. I view the excercise above as being supplementary to her knowledge and in my view a great way for children to interact and learn more on the subject.

I had to giggle when she mentioned she got to have a go with the speed radar as well...