WTF is wrong with Society?

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by laMon

If your figures are correct, then we really have no hope. The contraceptives and abortion are available in more plentiful supply then ever before and are free, but why would anyone from the disadvantaged use them when the state will provide for their disadvantaged children to run riot out of the council flats that were given for having them.

Simple solution; stop feeding the scum.

They'll either have to work, which is a step in the right direction, or they'll starve, in which case #shrug#.

[ethariel]

Personally, following a 6 point set of rules will severley reduce crime (ok the lethality of crime will probably go up a level or 2 but overall figures will be down)

1- US 3 Strike Rule - 3rd conviction gets the defendant LIFE without the possibility of parole - to hell with the old 'will the court please take into account 90000 similar offences showing this to be a mental disease not a crime routine.

2- Chain Gangs - Implement chain gangs, prisons are too soft now, more like bleeding holiday camps

3- Victorian Values - when home for the night from your 12 hour stint on the chaingang, a luke warm shower, meal (choice of 2 - meat or veggie - no more hotel style 30 combos or a McDonalds if none of them suit you) , coffee (if you have been good) off to bed (2 tripple bunks in a 8x10 cell) and check the potty is empty.

4- For all those tender little 10 yearolds dealing crack ahd carrying knives - Bring back the Birch (just google it) and if that does not work, kick them into the adult judicial system.

5- Bring back the Death Penalty - currently an 18 year old convicted of 1st degree murder can hope to be out and about with 'good behaviour' in thier early 30's, this IMHO is moraly reprehensible, anyone who takes a life should forefit thiers with the loss of it or the permanent loss of liberty, Life means Life.

6- Your home is YOUR HOME - those who enter it, uninvited or with malice, loose any and all rights they had or normally would have. Both barrels in the chest of an intruder should lead to a civic commendation, not being pillaried in the press for shooting someone IN YOUR OWN HOME!!!.

Pity there is no government in the land that would ever consider actually implementing any of these thoughts, might end up costing them a vote or 2 lost somewhere (or set them up for a fall when caught with thier hand in the cookie jar).

Well,

/flame on!

(Oh and no i wouldn't mind if i was prosecuted under the above rules, because I simply DON'T break the law in such a way as to need the above punishment, if i start doing it then i should pay the price)

Originally Posted by ethariel

Personally, following a 6 point set of rules will severley reduce crime (ok the lethality of crime will probably go up a level or 2 but overall figures will be down)

1- US 3 Strike Rule - 3rd conviction gets the defendant LIFE without the possibility of parole - to hell with the old 'will the court please take into account 90000 similar offences showing this to be a mental disease not a crime routine.

2- Chain Gangs - Implement chain gangs, prisons are too soft now, more like bleeding holiday camps

3- Victorian Values - when home for the night from your 12 hour stint on the chaingang, a luke warm shower, meal (choice of 2 - meat or veggie - no more hotel style 30 combos or a McDonalds if none of them suit you) , coffee (if you have been good) off to bed (2 tripple bunks in a 8x10 cell) and check the potty is empty.

4- For all those tender little 10 yearolds dealing crack ahd carrying knives - Bring back the Birch (just google it) and if that does not work, kick them into the adult judicial system.

5- Bring back the Death Penalty - currently an 18 year old convicted of 1st degree murder can hope to be out and about with 'good behaviour' in thier early 30's, this IMHO is moraly reprehensible, anyone who takes a life should forefit thiers with the loss of it or the permanent loss of liberty, Life means Life.

6- Your home is YOUR HOME - those who enter it, uninvited or with malice, loose any and all rights they had or normally would have. Both barrels in the chest of an intruder should lead to a civic commendation, not being pillaried in the press for shooting someone IN YOUR OWN HOME!!!.

Pity there is no government in the land that would ever consider actually implementing any of these thoughts, might end up costing them a vote or 2 lost somewhere (or set them up for a fall when caught with thier hand in the cookie jar).

Well,

/flame on!

(Oh and no i wouldn't mind if i was prosecuted under the above rules, because I simply DON'T break the law in such a way as to need the above punishment, if i start doing it then i should pay the price)

Well you did insist

1- US 3 Strike Rule - 3rd conviction gets the defendant LIFE without the possibility of parole - to hell with the old 'will the court please take into account 90000 similar offences showing this to be a mental disease not a crime routine.

And as a result there is no crime in the USA any more....

2- Chain Gangs - Implement chain gangs, prisons are too soft now, more like bleeding holiday camps

Ahh, like they have in the USA, that crime free utopia...

3- Victorian Values - when home for the night from your 12 hour stint on the chaingang, a luke warm shower, meal (choice of 2 - meat or veggie - no more hotel style 30 combos or a McDonalds if none of them suit you) , coffee (if you have been good) off to bed (2 tripple bunks in a 8x10 cell) and check the potty is empty.

Crime was non-existent in the Victorian age...

4- For all those tender little 10 yearolds dealing crack ahd carrying knives - Bring back the Birch (just google it) and if that does not work, kick them into the adult judicial system.

Ahh, like they did in the Middle Ages - that golden age where we all lived in harmony...

5- Bring back the Death Penalty - currently an 18 year old convicted of 1st degree murder can hope to be out and about with 'good behaviour' in thier early 30's, this IMHO is moraly reprehensible, anyone who takes a life should forefit thiers with the loss of it or the permanent loss of liberty, Life means Life.

Because every country with the death penalty currently has *far* lower crime rates than countries that don't have it...

6- Your home is YOUR HOME - those who enter it, uninvited or with malice, loose any and all rights they had or normally would have. Both barrels in the chest of an intruder should lead to a civic commendation, not being pillaried in the press for shooting someone IN YOUR OWN HOME!!!.

I think you'll find recent history has shown the preferred method of shooting intruders is in the back rather than in the chest Oh, and there are at least 266 ways in which various offices of the state can enter your home without permission too.

Pity there is no government in the land that would ever consider actually implementing any of these thoughts, might end up costing them a vote or 2 lost somewhere (or set them up for a fall when caught with thier hand in the cookie jar).

I think I've just shown that pretty much every government in every land has either tried these in the past, or do so currently. Without success.

(Oh and no i wouldn't mind if i was prosecuted under the above rules, because I simply DON'T break the law in such a way as to need the above punishment, if i start doing it then i should pay the price)

Are you sure about that?

Its people like this that made me encourage my eldest son to take up martial arts.He started when he,d just turned 5 he,s now 7 1/2 and just passed his 10th belt,this time next year he should be ready to take his black.I realise this does,nt necessarilly stop you from getting a knife in your back,but better to have some chance than no chance imo.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

Are you sure about that?

That's nowt to do with it, last I checked it's perfectly legal to carry a licensed rifle so long as it's in a case which prevents it from being fired and it's unloaded.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

That's nowt to do with it, last I checked it's perfectly legal to carry a licensed rifle so long as it's in a case which prevents it from being fired and it's unloaded.

That's plenty to do with it. Firearms when transported must be secure. It's up to the Police, the CPS and the courts to decide what is considered secure but as most advice implies transport in a car, and within a secure container within a car, preferably with a locking mechanism tying the container to the car my hunch would be that soft cases and bungee straps are likely to raise a few eyebrows.

Anyway, this is not my area of expertise, I was relying upon the poster's own conclusion, ie. that it's "Prolly not legal if pushed through the courts" - if by your own confession you're transporting firearms in a manner which you think is "prolly not legal" then it would appear a little foolish to post the next day "because I simply DON'T break the law". Regardless of whether the actual transportation is illegal, it merely highlights the fact that those calling for draconian zero tolerance don't consider that their own actions would likely trigger just such a response - it's not just the "little sh1ts" you read about in the Daily Express.

[yorkie_chris]

Yeah I see your point with regards "probly not legal" "I don't break the law"

I don't think a mega harsh justice system would help matters at the moment, maybe in the short term, but people tend to come out of prison worse than when they went in.

However I do approve of capital punishment for people too dangerous to release, on the basis of cost.

[Paul the 6th]

it's all getting a bit serious on here isn't it. Whatever happened to cake?

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

it's all getting a bit serious on here isn't it. Whatever happened to cake?

Paul

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

it's all getting a bit serious on here isn't it. Whatever happened to cake?

if you go back in time to eat the cake will the cake still exist when you decide whether or not to go back in time and eat it???



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