bigger bike

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

And rebuilding it every week

Naaa back in those days they wernt pushed like they were towards the end of the WSB days. back then they were about 160bhp at the wheel I believe and the 999 last year was 195bhp and rev'd to about 15K rpm!

The SP's had 98x66mm bore and stroke (standard is 97x67.5mm) to allow it to rev and all the cams and drive train was upgraded to rev higher. The SP road bikes were the full on WSB spec engine, cosworth bling so should be able to run higher revs resonably hapily.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Yes, an SP!

I had the full race exhaust on it and the chip, stock exhaust really strangled it and an Italian gentleman told me it wasn't designed or expected to run on the standard exhaust.

No indeed not. Any idea what it was putting out? I guess back then there wernt as many Dyno's available?

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

Any idea what it was putting out?

I think it was mid-high 150 (they made mid 140 standard IIRC), but the system helped with the midrange and took away a huge flat spot (which you didn't know was there until you fitted the system as filled your pants).

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

I think it was mid-high 150 (they made mid 140 standard IIRC), but the system helped with the midrange and took away a huge flat spot (which you didn't know was there until you fitted the system as filled your pants).

Yes most of the V990's suffer with this. Some new end cans and a Eprom has solved mine now. Not had it dyno'd since but you can see it stock on the dyno in my sig.

How does the 800 compair (from memory) to the SP?

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

How does the 800 compair (from memory) to the SP?

The 800 is easier to flick from side to side, but then the SV is about 20-25kg lighter (I should way the 800 really). The midrange is not as strong as the SP, but there is no substitute for cubes. Handling wise, well the isn't much in it to be honest as both bikes were set up for my riding style (front end rider).

If I could walk into a shop and buy either of the two....



...the SP would get the first deposit for a non-emotionally attached bike.

The 800 is worth more to me than any other bike, not in money, we have an emotional attachment as I have spent years in building the bike around me.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

The 800 is easier to flick from side to side, but then the SV is about 20-25kg lighter (I should way the 800 really). The midrange is not as strong as the SP, but there is no substitute for cubes. Handling wise, well the isn't much in it to be honest as both bikes were set up for my riding style (front end rider).

If I could walk into a shop and buy either of the two....



...the SP would get the first deposit for a non-emotionally attached bike.

The 800 is worth more to me than any other bike, not in money, we have an emotional attachment as I have spent years in building the bike around me.

Aye thats fair enough.

I need to make the front a bit softer (softer springs) to make it feel better because Im more a front end rider too.

Its a shame bikes when you buy them arnt setup for you (spring weights etc), not that that would help me... but still would be good.

[yorkie_chris]

What's a front end rider then?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

What's a front end rider then?

As long as the front is planted who cares where the rear is. I have the bikes jacked up at the rear with more weight ion the front, I like the front to feel planted and offer loads of feed back.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

What's a front end rider then?

People that like to push the front end in corner's, some people prefer to get the weight on the back wheel. At least thats what it means to me.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

As long as the front is planted who cares where the rear is. I have the bikes jacked up at the rear with more weight ion the front, I like the front to feel planted and offer loads of feed back.

Thats a better explanation than mine.