Vigilante's..eye for an eye and the like...

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Kinvig

Surely, that's a separate issue? That's an issue of an undue lenient sentence? Blame the prosecutor or the judge.

Or you could just shoot him in the back of the head with a 9mm.

For raping a young girl like that I have no sympathy, the more nonces like that get brutally murdered the better, it's a good deterrent for anyone else who's tempted.

If it were my kid, I probably would have used a gallon of petrol instead.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Or you could just shoot him in the back of the head with a 9mm.

For raping a young girl like that I have no sympathy, the more nonces like that get brutally murdered the better, it's a good deterrent for anyone else who's tempted.

If it were my kid, I probably would have used a gallon of petrol instead.

I find myself repeating the same argument over and over again. If the punishment for rape is death then it is not in a rapist's interest to leave their victims alive. If the punishment for rape is death then unfortunately this will not prevent rape (the punishment for murder in much of the US is death but murders still happen - far more than they do here coincidentally). What you are suggesting as an improvement to criminal justice is for every rape victim to be murdered.

The perpetrators deserve a Knighthood for this, its what the courts should be doing in the first place.

Originally Posted by hovis

1 down 1000's to go

but its a start

Tell me, in this utopian vision of criminal justice, what would the mob dispense to those, hmmm.... lets say, arrested for assaulting a police officer. Or drink driving perhaps? Doesn't matter if they did it or not - mobs don't work like that, they were arrested so they must be guilty.

Mobs don't require proof to get the pitchforks out. Before you start throwing stones it's time for you to move out from that greenhouse.

[yorkie_chris]

No it's not, I'm saying if someone had raped my child or my girlfriend or anyone dear to me. I would go to any length to remove them from this planet.

I suggest you read "dead or alive" by Geoff Thompson for a closer look into the psyche of rapists and other undesireables. As in reality, many of these dangerous animals are not as logical as you give them credit for.

And there's a term for you, "dangerous animal", yes that's correct, these people see themselves, and behave like predators. The term "sexual predator" is rather popular, so in my eyes there's nothing wrong with treating them as dangerous soft skinned game.

But anyway, hippiness aside. If it were your kid, your wife, your sister ... YOU would be down the pub buying a gun.

Originally Posted by svdemon

The perpetrators deserve a Knighthood for this, its what the courts should be doing in the first place.

People capable of mutilating torturing and stabbing to death another living creature, human or otherwise, deserve nothing other than to be kept away from society as long as possible. It's one thing to think about it, it's another thing entirely to actually plan and do something like that up close and personal to another human being. Anyone capable of that level of cruelty is a real threat to society. And yep, the exact same thing can be said for the rapist - the rapist is no better than the torturing murderous mob and the torturing murderous mob is no better than the rapist.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

I suggest you read "dead or alive" by Geoff Thompson for a closer look into the psyche of rapists and other undesireables. As in reality, many of these dangerous animals are not as logical as you give them credit for.

Ok so they're not logical enough to figure out they may as well murder their victims to eliminate any witnesses given that the punishment for rape and murder is the same but they are logical enough to see a death sentence as a deterrent? Will a death sentence for rape (and I'm assuming if we're going down this line the sentence for murder is also death) result in more rape victims being killed after they're raped?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

And there's a term for you, "dangerous animal", yes that's correct, these people see themselves, and behave like predators. The term "sexual predator" is rather popular, so in my eyes there's nothing wrong with treating them as dangerous soft skinned game.

Assuming I agree with you on the animal thing (which I don't), how would you feel about anyone who has the capacity to mutilate, torture and then stab to death a game animal? Shoot it for meat or hell, even sport is one thing. But how would you feel about anyone capable of torturing a stag before stabbing it to death for example?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

But anyway, hippiness aside. If it were your kid, your wife, your sister ... YOU would be down the pub buying a gun.

I can't tell how I'd act in that situation. And I hope to god I never will. And I hope to god you're in the same boat as me. I'm pretty damn sure I'd want to but there's a world of difference between wanting to kill someone and doing it, and there's a further world of difference between killing someone and torturing before killing. But this is precisely why the victims of crime, direct or indirect, are not Judge, Jury and Executioner. I can guarantee you'll have wronged somebody in your life, we all have one way or another - who gets to decide if dumping someone is worthy of the death penalty, my ex certainly thought it was (at least she said as much, thankfully she didn't act upon that), but luckily for me she doesn't get to decide.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

If it were your kid, your wife, your sister ... YOU would be down the pub buying a gun.

If it were to happen to either my miss', sister, or daughter I would use everything at my disposal and not one person on this planet would prevent me from hunting that animal down.

Preying on the physically weaker for pleasure and power, that is pathetic.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

Assuming I agree with you on the animal thing (which I don't), how would you feel about anyone who has the capacity to mutilate, torture and then stab to death a game animal? Shoot it for meat or hell, even sport is one thing. But how would you feel about anyone capable of torturing a stag before stabbing it to death for example

What like the people who hunt with dogs?

Nah it should be humane. Long range rifle is a good start.

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

there's a world of difference between wanting to kill someone and doing it

Aye, and it something that you will never forget and it will haunt you for a long time if you have any decency in you.