Casey Stoner

Originally Posted by sinbad

I think Casey tries quite hard at it (the pr stuff) too, when he has to, but it's easy to see he's nowhere near as enthused by it all as Captain Yellow is so we think he's dull and arrogant.

The best PR for Ducati is to be able to say their bike won the World Championship, and Casey's quite good in that respect, he seems to be quite dedicated to that aspect.

Well said that man. Alot of people on here would appear to be more interested in the post-race interviews than the race itself

Originally Posted by SuZuKiBaBe

i not trying to have an argument - i just want you to try see it from a different perspective..

That perspective thing, works both ways. You are obviously one of his fans who admires him whatever, but you are right, it's NOT a personality contest. Someone should tell him that when he starts whining about people not liking him again, like he did recently. He'd do a lot better if he just shut up and got on with it, you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar.

Originally Posted by sinbad

Rossi had a total do or die attitude in that race, and it's not hard to see why another rider would think that's unacceptable. Stoner shouldn't have to give up a spot because he's scared of getting taken out by a lunatic, if he did then they'd all be lunatics all the time. It's racing not "let me back past or I'll end it for us both".

Rossi was on the raggedy edge in more ways than one in that race. If it had been the other way round and Stoner was the aggressor, he would have got an absolute pasting.

See, I think Stoner had EXACTLY the same attitude in that race, and was equally as aggressive, leading to the mistake he made- Rossi didn't go wide, or drop the bike, like Casey did.

Originally Posted by DMC

Well said that man. Alot of people on here would appear to be more interested in the post-race interviews than the race itself

Oh dear, that's helpful. Think you'll find people are allowed to have opinions differing from yours. I watch it for the racing, if you'd read the whole thread, you'd know that-I was gutted when Stoner was out for those races, it's much more exciting when he is part of it.

Originally Posted by sinbad

I think Casey tries quite hard at it (the pr stuff) too, when he has to, but it's easy to see he's nowhere near as enthused by it all as Captain Yellow is so we think he's dull and arrogant.

The best PR for Ducati is to be able to say their bike won the World Championship, and Casey's quite good in that respect, he seems to be quite dedicated to that aspect.

He is quite dedicated, yes, and is also a genius rider. But people are allowed to make their own decisions on personality, whether you agree or not.I haven't called him Stoner the moaner, yet *captain yellow* is acceptable-I thought that was your point? It's not a personality contest after all?

Sure Ducati will be better pleased when he wins again, and again and again, like Cap'n Yellow.

Touche.

Originally Posted by shonadoll

Oh dear, that's helpful. Think you'll find people are allowed to have opinions differing from yours

Apparently not judging by your response!

Originally Posted by shonadoll

I watch it for the racing, if you'd read the whole thread, you'd know that-I was gutted when Stoner was out for those races, it's much more exciting when he is part of it.

I have read the whole thread thank you and have no issue with any of your posts, so no need to be so touchy. However, some do seem to think its ok to give old Casey a good bashing just because he doesnt come across as well in interview as they would like him to. Doesnt make him a bad person, but people are all so quick to slate someone despite knowing so little about them.

I totally accept (IMHO) that Mr Stoner is not the most charasmatic out there, but not everyone is gifted as a charmer. Doesnt mean he should get a bashing for being the way he is personallity wise.

Originally Posted by shonadoll

He is quite dedicated, yes, and is also a genius rider. But people are allowed to make their own decisions on personality, whether you agree or not.I haven't called him Stoner the moaner, yet *captain yellow* is acceptable-I thought that was your point? It's not a personality contest after all?

Sure Ducati will be better pleased when he wins again, and again and again, like Cap'n Yellow.

Touche.

Captain Yellow is Valentino "I basically own the colour yellow as a registered trademark, I'm a marketing dream" Rossi. I'm sorry that wasn't obvious to you. So I'm not sure what your point was, or whether you mean it in light of that.

I'm not saying anything other than what I think either, I don't think I said we shouldn't form our own opinion, but comparisons should be made with care when the "benchmark" people are using is someone so exuberant and extrovert, as Valentino Rossi is.

Originally Posted by Lissa

I see it from my perspective, which I believe I have a right to do and express. Stoner has done nothing but whinge and moan ever since he first arrived in the UK. He is, IMO, an ungracious, ungrateful spoiled child.

Far cough. What a load of rubbish that is. For one reason or other (perhaps because in the absence of a local title contender, the UK press and a good portion of the fickle fans have adopted Rossi as an honorary Brit and to hell with anyone who challenges their golden boy) the UK press have Stoner bashing as a pastime, in the absence of actually being able to report news. I'm on the other side of the planet and know full well that the UK press is downright nasty about anyone they don't like. Surely you know it as well.

Remember, Rossi has distanced himself from the gormless idiots who have booed Stoner in the UK specifically, saying he does not want people like that as fans of his.

Stoner spoilt? Have you actually any idea on what path has been travelled to reach where he is now?

Originally Posted by shonadoll

See, I think Stoner had EXACTLY the same attitude in that race, and was equally as aggressive, leading to the mistake he made- Rossi didn't go wide, or drop the bike, like Casey did.

No, quite different attitudes actually. Rossi had to stay in front and become a roadblock to prevent Stoner getting away from him. With the championship on the line and Laguna Seca being a track that leant itself to that kind of race, he HAD to make it work. That kind of pressure makes one take greater risks. Stoner had another opportunity to get maximum points but didn't see the need to apply the 'red mist' to the same extent, hence the end of race comments.

Rossi brake checked Stoner into the last corner, when you're following someone for a few laps, trying to get a read on them, a change of braking marker by the lead rider will ruin your day. Rossi is smart enough to know that and was just delving into his deep quiver of racecraft to stay in front.

Some interesting things about Casey Stoner;

1. He has very few friends- he spends his free time with family and playing Playstation with Red Bull Rookies riders.

2. He often wears through the soles of his Alpinestar boots in one race meet due to the pressure he puts through the pegs. Alpinestars have made special reinforced boots for him but he still ruins them.

3. He uses the rear brake so hard he sometimes pops the caliper seals.

4. He was getting so much lean angle at Phillip Island the white stripe on the sidewall indicating the softer tyre was rubbing off.

These are just a few things about the guy that make me really not care what he says in post-race interviews. He rocks.