How to be an idiot.

[fizzwheel]

Thing is, the couple of times we've ended up on wet tarmac with it in 4WD, you could feel the load on the transmission through the steering wheel, i.e. its gets much heavier and it judders and hops if you try to steer around a sharp corner. You can tell that the vehicle doesnt like what you are trying to do with it.

Just shows how some people just have a complete lack of mechnical sympathy or simply dont understand how or why their vehicle does what it does.

http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/22122010/36...cy-hill-0.html

4x4's rule.....not

[Luckypants]

amusing, but all of that was down to crap driving (IMHO). Evidence being the two vehicles that made it safely down. All of those sliding down had jammed their brakes on and were praying. Especially like the the cool guy in the white mid-size 4x4 coming down under control and avoiding the chaos while someone in massive pick-up was pirouetting down the hill towards them

So how would you get down that hill?

Personally I'd stick it first, and leave it to it's own devices to crawl down under it's own engine braking. I've often found one or two clicks of handbrake is just enough to match the engine braking at the front with the rear wheels and give a nice even controlled crawl all the way down a slippy slope (with a hand ready to gently release it if the rear were to lock and start sliding round of course).

No doubt someone will shoot me and tell me I'm doing it all wrong.

Never crashed or got a car stuck in snow though, and the snow has never stopped me completing a journey, so I must be doing something right.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

So how would you get down that hill?

I would'nt unless I really really had to, I would if I could find away around it.

If I had to drive down it, first gear, feet off all the pedals and just let it make its way down it on the engine braking.

[Luckypants]

With a 4WD I'd take Fizz's approach, as long as the gears were low enough to hold against gravity. Else I would use first, brakes on gently and try to hold it at walking pace by balancing the brakes against engine on tickover. The key IMO would be to avoid locking a wheel and starting to slide.

But Fizz's first option is the correct one, find an alternative route!

I took another option today, I turned back for home because I deemed the roads too icy to risk driving from Bedford to Reading. I'd been on the road for half an hour and only got as far as juct 13 of the M1, a journey that only takes 15 mins in the snow and 10 mins in good weather, but the roads were just sheet ice today and I don't see the point of risking my neck for a few quid in those conditions.