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Old 25-06-06, 10:06 AM   #71
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also fitting larger calipers to the curvy model and running them in trackdays will bend the forks they are just not capable of handling larger calipers
I'm so sure that this isn't the case that I'm prepared to bet a whole scottish pound note on it... Total power's not the issue, you get no mure actual brute braking force from GSXR calipers than you do with SV bits (when they work). SV calipers will lock any tyre in the dry, the limit of braking force is traction not brakes. It's what you can do with it, and how it delivers it, that makes all the difference.
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Mart , have you got a reliable sources for what you are saying with regards to the forks bending?
If my I've retained anything from physics lesson(long time ago) the SV sliding calipers would be applying the same force on both sides of the discs.

What caused fade? Is it to do the calipers , the master cylinder or the pads.

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Old 25-06-06, 02:25 PM   #72
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yes two accounts of forks bending with large calipers james of jhs is the informant and no i dont believe all that he says but i have spoken to a few others that have seen it.
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im sure that is the case though you think that with a build up brake dust and dirt caked together with rain that the sliding motion of the calipers would diminish thus diminishing the power of the calipers.

i think also the way i phrased the last post was a little off the sv caliper dont fade rather they have a limit to the power they can exert coupled with the bad damping of the forks limits the bikes stopping power
it just seem that i run out of stopping power too soon on the sv calipers but on the cbf which also has two pot sliders i have that extra bit of brake and its a more constant feel from start to full stop
now im really confused. If were to make a conversion plate to fit the sv calipers to gsxr forks would you run the sv calipers over the four pots

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Old 25-06-06, 02:36 PM   #73
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Ultimatly you are trying to stop a 280mm disk travling faster than the 320mm disks that are on GSXR and other bikes, disk being smaller means it does not cool down as much and the friction has to be heiger to slow it down while on the larger disks the same braking power on the calipers is more as the disks are travling slower and not heating up the disks as much.

Mabey someone can figure if GSXR disks can be fitted to SV wheels and mounting plates made to make GSXR calipers to fit. That would be a powerfull combination. Failing that get better disks such as EBC Prolite with HH pads, that will give you stupid braking power on an SV.

ps. This is the way i understand it, it may be wrong though.
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Old 25-06-06, 02:43 PM   #74
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yes gsxr disc can be fitted to the sv wheel though the coversion plates would need to be longer
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Old 25-06-06, 04:38 PM   #75
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I really wonder if it's possible to fit 320mm discs AND GSX-R calipers. I think that there's a good chance that the calipers will touch the wheel if the GSX-R calipers will be fitted as well, because of the different angle the calipers have to be mounted to the adapter plates.

Perhaps that fitting 320mm discs, compared to the 290mm stock discs, with stock calipers will provide extra stopping power as well.
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Ok, thanks! So you've got some black Nissin calipers? Or did you buy the gold ones from a RR?
yup, the shiny golden ones from the RR with stealth brake hoses.


I bought also the Race-Tech emulator kit to upgrade the full front-end. (got already harder springs from WP). I will let you know when it's finished.
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