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Nah, we're now fully ratified signatories to the european convention on human rights which specifically prohibits the death penalty, except in times of war. Hmm, seeing as the "war on terror" will never actually end, I still may not be safe
![]() Edit: ahh, no, looks like we've ratified protocol 13 too which specifically bans the death penalty in all circumstances. Don't recall us making too much fuss about Saddam's execution mind, though I do remember Mr Blair dodging the question ![]() Last edited by MiniMatt; 17-05-07 at 12:49 PM. |
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Send him, only don't deploy him with us 'ordinary' folk instead team him up with a bunch of other like-minded posh commisioned t***ers, say 250th in-line to the throne and up or something, and give 'em a big bag of silver spoons to spit at the 'savages'. Alternatively he can follow the old colonial way of sitting in a big tent while little Manuel from the local tribe fans him with a big leaf and feeds him grapes
![]() Seriously though, my bro-in-law has just returned from his second tour of Iraq and he lost good mates on both tours, its very sad. The thing is if Harry goes he will just attract extra attention for his regiment from the al-quieda and I think our lads/lasses over there, and their families here, have enough to worry about as it is. We're lucky Steve came back, he made it through plenty of crap including a mortar attack which landed directly on his bed whilst, luckily, he was out of the tent on the phone to his fiance. Anybody who really thinks he should go has clearly had no close friends or family go and IMHO are talking out of their exhaust-holes so to speak. To think that they could die for some stupid royal publicity stunt is more scandalous than us being there in the first place. Best place for Harry is in the Army careers office, end of. ![]() |
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In August 1914 Prince Edward joined the Grenadier Guards. Lord Kitchener refused to allow him to serve in the front line. Kitchener told him his presence
would mean an added danger to those around him. The Prince apparently told him that he had no fear of dying for his country, to which Kitchener replied I'm not worried about you dying, we can't afford to have you captured by the enemy! |
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I dont think he should go because of the risk he places on the others, but not because he is less expendable that any other soldier. The army has made the right decision.
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We seem to have sanitised the bloody and disgusting reality that is happening in Iraq and in Afghanistan on a daily basis. I'm not saying that we should withdraw - not at all, simply that we really do owe our soldiers more. Like recognising that whilst our policiticaians make the most appalling errors of judgement and get away with it because of toadies in the House of Commons, our soldiers do not have the same luxury. |
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I think he should go, let the lad know what real life is. Wrapping him in cotton wool cause he's a royal is wrong, its what he did his training for.
Personally i don't think anyone should be there, If he went it may give a reason to pull the whole damn lot out.
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My thoughts (as a Challenger 2 Commander) is that he should go. He wants to and it should be allowed. Anybody who thinks the insurgents are just going to stop targeting CVRT's because he isn't going would be wrong.
To these people we are the infidels and we must be lying about him not going. Plans will already be set and they will just pick a random troop to attack. I thank god I have a Challenger 2 and not a CVRT. That said one of my boys lost a leg a few weeks back when they attempted to destroy the wagon he was driving. Currently being repaired ![]() ![]() |
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'zackly. TBH I think this is the right decision, but how come they didn't see it coming? The question isn't just what to do now, it's how was the mess allowed to happen...
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War is a filthy, nasty f*cking horrible business and if it takes a dead or disfigured Prince to get our people home then that is a cheap as chips price to pay. In fact for that reason alone he should be on the next plane [/rant] |
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Send him out - its a slap in the face to all those 'ordinary' soldiers who fought two world wars to keep his family in the lap of luxury!!
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