Is keeping pets Cruel ?

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Originally Posted by Bri w

My dog, oops our dog, is probably my 2nd best buddy. Through the day, if I'm at my desk she sleeps somewhere around me or under the desk. If I'm out visiting customers she comes with me through choice, and she always wants to come. We cover miles along the beach or in the woods, again her choice. If I'm away with work I always ask after her, and she cries if she can't find me (and sleeps under my desk).

On an evening she will sit next to Mrs B for a while but invariably comes back to me. If she's tired she will go and lie in her cage (door permanently open).

She is my, oops our, 5th Border Collie, covering almost 50yrs, and currently no.2 in my favourites list next to Mollie-dog who died in Jan '92.

Is she a pet? Thats semantics. To some she will be percieved that way but to me she's my no. 2 buddy.

Is it cruel to keep a pet? If its a wild animal thats caught and 'made a pet' then yes its cruel. If its from domesticated stock and given a good home, cared for and loved then it is the opposite of cruel. In my opinion anyway.

This post made me smile so much. This is precisely how Stig is with me. All the others love me and Dan pretty much the same...if anything, they all lean towards Dan a bit more, but that may well be because no dog will ever come close to meaning what Stig does to me. I love them all, but he's my baby. I treat him like a dog not a baby...but he is still my baby. If I'm in the room, it doesn't matter who he is with, even Dan...he'll stare over at me....leaning towards me. He kind of vibrates with anticipation and he's so funny when he does it. Last night he was having Stretchie cuddles, but doing this staring/wishing he was with me thing, so Dan said, "go on then" and he leapt up, bounded across the room and jumped in my lap.

Make no mistake, real and genuine alliances can be made between species.

Is it not highly morally questionable to keep another sentient being for our own use/pleasure?

Apply that to having a child... lol

The child doesnt exist, it is of no benefit to the child to exist. A person choses to have a child because they want it to satisify there own needs. Do you believe thats morally questionable? I think so taking over population etc into account.

[Littlepeahead]

The real benefit of kids is when you are an aunt. You can buy really irritating toys that sing in a whiney American accent as presents, teach them swearwords, encourage them to ask mummy how babies are made and fill them up on sweets before handing them back to the parents. And you have an excuse to take a day off work to visit the dinosaurs at the Natural History Museum. Or is it just me that does this?

[Mej]

Originally Posted by simesb

Obviously you haven't got cats. Apparently I work for their benefit...

lmao

thats is true

heard someone say the other day, dogs have owners, cats have staff, definetly the case for my cat.

I dont think keeping pets is cruel at all, espcially domesticated animals.

I think if you can offer an animal life that is as good as or better than one they would have in the wild then i dont see a problem with it. On the other hand people who treat animals badly are as low as pedos and rapists and should all be killed. by me if necessary.

RSPCA want to ban reptile keeping, what a load of Bol**cks.

[Biker Biggles]

Anyway back to the OP-----Where's Blue?

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

This post made me smile so much. This is precisely how Stig is with me. All the others love me and Dan pretty much the same...if anything, they all lean towards Dan a bit more, but that may well be because no dog will ever come close to meaning what Stig does to me. I love them all, but he's my baby. I treat him like a dog not a baby...but he is still my baby. If I'm in the room, it doesn't matter who he is with, even Dan...he'll stare over at me....leaning towards me. He kind of vibrates with anticipation and he's so funny when he does it. Last night he was having Stretchie cuddles, but doing this staring/wishing he was with me thing, so Dan said, "go on then" and he leapt up, bounded across the room and jumped in my lap.

Make no mistake, real and genuine alliances can be made between species.

I said it many times the weekend I stayed with you and Dan but Stig was just hanging off of your everyword! I thought it was lovely.

I have had dogs all of my life, we currently have 7, one of which is my wee Buddles! She is a black lab and is about 20 months old.

Dogs are pack animals. As are humans. They enjoy our company as much as we enjoy theirs. Dogs also need leadership and generally are not happy unless they have that leadership.

I certainly don't think it is cruel to "keep pets" and tbh, I think, especially with cats and dogs, if they didn't want to be with you then off they would trott!

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MBK....he really does doesn't he bless him. For ome reason three days after having the plums popped out, he is super playful at the moment.

Originally Posted by gruntygiggles

MBK....he really does doesn't he bless him. For ome reason three days after having the plums popped out, he is super playful at the moment.

He does, he clearly worships you! Super playful? My god, he's bad enough as it is!!

[ophic]

Dogs are a product of human breeding anyway. Most wouldn't survive in the wild as they're bred to work or provide companionship, not to fend for themselves. This muppet that's currently spread across my feet, is far too daft and too slow to catch anything at all.

[Littlepeahead]

I was awoken this morning by my cat jumping all four feet at once onto my windpipe then violently headbutting me for his breakfast. Considering this time yeaterday I was rushing him to the vets I think it's safe to say the antibiotics are working. Had he been out in the wild there would have been no painkiller jab or antibiotics and he would probably have died of dehydration.