Overtaking in the blackwall tunnel.

I don't see it as an olive branch, and I don't consider this a war so one isn't necessary. I have nothing against stuuk1 at all, just about the sentiment expressed in the original post. Not the overtaking bit, the deserving to crash bit. People who ride like idiots don't get a lot of sympathy from me either, that's never been my assertion. I merely think that classifying everyone who rides a particular stretch of road I ride in a way I ride, safely and considerately, is therefore a hooligan and deserves injury is a little bit uncharitable

Originally Posted by Red Herring

I happen to think that people who ride like d1ckheads deserve whatever downfall befalls them, I just don't think you can define a d1ckhead as generally as the OP did.

I reckon if you're not endangering others but only yourself, would be a bit harsh to say. Afterall said person would probably be leaving a devastated mother/kid/wife behind.

Or even if someone ends up in a wheelchair for life eating out of a tube cos they rode like a tool, it'll be his mum that's left having to clean up his sh*ite.

edit: though your definition of a d1ckhead is probably someone who endangers others anyway so fair enough. Still, I reckon death or paralysis is a harsh punishment for most crimes, including riding/driving like a knob.

[Red Herring]

I think just about everybody who rides a bike legally (as in has a licence) on a road knows how to ride safely and considerately. If they then make a deliberate decision to ride otherwise then they have to accept the consequences of that. We all know when we are taking risks, and if you do so then you deserve the consequence of it. If you do so and involve others in your risk then you definitely deserve all you get.

If someone rode like a twit and took out your wife and kids i don't imagine you'd exactly wish them a long and prosperous life would you?

Originally Posted by thulfi

I reckon if you're not endangering others but only yourself, would be a bit harsh to say. Afterall said person would probably be leaving a devastated mother/kid/wife behind.

Or even if someone ends up in a wheelchair for life eating out of a tube cos they rode like a tool, it'll be his mum that's left having to clean up his sh*ite.

edit: though your definition of a d1ckhead is probably someone who endangers others anyway so fair enough. Still, I reckon death or paralysis is a harsh punishment for most crimes, including riding/driving like a knob.

Its not just the family, its also the guy driving the car who ends up running the biker over. It would affect alot of people for one persons stupid actions.


As for wishing for the biker to fall of... ok I was being harsh, but if the guy/gal was to fall off and get injured, i'd stuggle to find any sympathy. We've all done the necessary training and know how to ride at whatever standard we do.

We all know the law and we all know why those laws are in place. I agree some laws are there for silly reasons and dont seem useful, but some laws are in place for a reason and that reason is a good one.

I cant be bothered to reply anymore to this post.

If anything I hope this thead has enlightened yourself and others to how other commuters that use the tunnel feel about the riding styles of filterers (I think that made sense...).

At the end of the day, its your choice, you take the risks, not me.

Be careful

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

We all know the law and we all know why those laws are in place. I agree some laws are there for silly reasons and dont seem useful, but some laws are in place for a reason and that reason is a good one.

I cant be bothered to reply anymore to this post.

Dear God, if I wanted some patronising sh*te I'd go and read the IAM website or a BMW owners forum or something.
31mph! Stone him!

You cannot be bothered to reply to this thread is you admitting your POV on it is full of crap which you cannot support with logic.

Haha ok.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

Haha ok.

So no intelligent retort then. Why am I not surprised.

Originally Posted by Red Herring

We all know when we are taking risks, and if you do so then you deserve the consequence of it.

Not sure if you mean risks on the road or risks in general. I think accepting the outcomes of your risk is different to deserving them. Do you really deserve to not walk for life if you took a risk squeezing in behind a couple of cars when say filtering?

Originally Posted by Red Herring

If you do so and involve others in your risk then you definitely deserve all you get.

If someone rode like a twit and took out your wife and kids i don't imagine you'd exactly wish them a long and prosperous life would you?

Yeh well admittedly there is more debate in this regard. Involving others is not acceptable, and if someone took out my wife and kids I would want to hunt them down without a doubt.

But then isn't that the same as saying capital punishment for man slaughter (albeit the road being the executioner)?.

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

I cant be bothered to reply anymore to this post.

Originally Posted by Stuuk1

Haha ok.

Just couldn't quite resist eh?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

So no intelligent retort then. Why am I not surprised.

Ive noticed that the previous post was infact your first post in this particular thread? You have also come in at the end of the thread and decided to comment about something that had nothing to do with how the thread started.

If you read properly, you'd see that the thread was about filtering through a compact tunnel. I notice you aren't from down here and possibly havent ridden/driven through it. So in that case your comment wasn't really needed as it meant nothing.

There was no 'intelligent retort' to your comment for the simple fact that your comment was completely pointless and didn't warrant an enthusiastic reply.